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« on: August 13, 2015, 04:34:48 AM »

The premise of this bill is, of course, to reduce the scope of federal government apparatus, which we have problems to fill already.

First, I can't see why shouldn't we return to census and elections run by one department. The SoFA's daily job would be to maintain the rolls with managing an election as a periodical job.

Similarly, the Secretary of Home Affairs would be mostly concerned with the stuff the SoIA is handling now, as prosecutions is a occasional task.

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 01:20:15 PM »

I think it makes sense to abolish the Attorney General, rather than combine it with the SoIA which has a very different remit, so you'll get people suited to one job but not the other and then whenever prosecutions are needed the President can just appoint a temporary prosecutor.

The Secretary of Home Affairs wouldn't have to run a prosecution. When I was an AG, I had appointed a special prosecutor on more than one occassion.

I don't think the President should be appointing a special prosecutor.


(Btw, the AG is important only when there's a court case. There's no need for a permanent cabinet position)
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2015, 05:33:39 AM »

If the president can remove the SoIA whenever he wants, and he also appoints them, doesn't it make sense that he should directly have the power to appoint a prosecutor?

It's also true that the president can dismiss the AG whenever he wants, so there isn't much difference between my proposal and the current situation, except mine would trim one permanent office.

OK, that's a fair point. Although I'm not sure whether President is more qualified to initiate a prosecution than a prospective Secretary of Home Affairs.

Here's an alternative proposal: abolish the Department of Justice and replace the AG with a non-cabinet rank of Solicitor General, whose job would be to initiate court cases and represent the government. Wiki duties (as well as overseeing the federal law enforcement, etc.) would be transferred to the SoIA.

What do you think?
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2015, 04:49:45 AM »

If the president can remove the SoIA whenever he wants, and he also appoints them, doesn't it make sense that he should directly have the power to appoint a prosecutor?

It's also true that the president can dismiss the AG whenever he wants, so there isn't much difference between my proposal and the current situation, except mine would trim one permanent office.

OK, that's a fair point. Although I'm not sure whether President is more qualified to initiate a prosecution than a prospective Secretary of Home Affairs.

Here's an alternative proposal: abolish the Department of Justice and replace the AG with a non-cabinet rank of Solicitor General, whose job would be to initiate court cases and represent the government. Wiki duties (as well as overseeing the federal law enforcement, etc.) would be transferred to the SoIA.

What do you think?

Does non cabinet rank mean not voted on by the senate?

Well, the GM is considered not a cabinet office, but is still a subject of confirmation. So are the Supreme Court Justices.

Personally, I'd still like to have the Solicitor General facing confirmation, given it still an important post.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2015, 10:59:52 AM »

I'll gladly respond to all points raised within a few hours. I'm tied at the moment.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2015, 01:14:22 AM »

All right, after reading most of the comments, this is the most compromise version I could possibly think of:

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2015, 05:06:45 PM »

I have no objections to PiT's amendment.

As of what Bore raised, I don't think it would be wise to a SG to serve as Senator. Too much potential conflicts.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2015, 06:49:21 AM »

No objections from me
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2015, 01:23:24 PM »


Seconded.

I think we clarified all issues that were raised and I see no new ones to address.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 04:12:15 PM »

Aye
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