BC provincial election

[Gabu]

Last I heard the BC NDP were playing more to the latter in the hope of picking up a load of seats on the Island and in parts of the Interior (in other words the areas struggling economically).

Yeah, they're not exactly making it a secret that they're pro-union.  Whether or not that works as well as they hope remains to be seen, as general opinion in BC of unions is not exactly fabulous, but not completely negative, either.  It's probably a safe stance to take, though; those on the anti-union side are likely already voting Liberal.

[jimrtex]

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How large are the constituencies under STV going to be?

5 to 7 in urban areas, 2 to 4 in rural areas.  BC has about a dozen very large single member ridings, many that are on the low-side as far as population.  Many persons had suggested that AV (single member STV) be used for these rural seats, or that the number of seats be kept low so as to accomodate the moral rural areas.

[http://www.elections.bc.ca/map/maps.htm] Maps of BC Ridings (Wall Map is 6M PDF file) [/url]

The whole process was rather interesting.  The Liberal government, which had a 77-2 majority, created a Citizens' Assembly which was randomly selected from the voters roll (the selection process was stratified by age, sex, and geography).  From an initial mailout to 23,000 voters, 160 were eventually selected as members.

They then spent most of last year studying various options, holding 50 hearings around the province and making a decision as to which system should be offered to the voters (they were required to decide whether or not a new voting system should be presented to the voters; and if so, what should that system be).

Citizens' Assembly

[minionofmidas]

Hmm. Two and Three is way low.

[minionofmidas]

Maps of BC Ridings (Wall Map is 6M PDF file)

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Final Election Prediction Project numbers:

BC Liberals 50
NDP 29

[Hatman 🍁]

Hmm. Two and Three is way low.

I agree, but change needs to happen, even if the change sucks, it's better than what it is now.

[WMS]

I've been following the campaign, and it would appear the NDP under Ms. James has taken a sharp turn to the right.  Whereas the Liberals are way out in right field.

Which in American political terms means the NDP is only left instead of far left and the Liberals are holding at center-left, correct?
*whistles innocently*

No, that is so overplayed. It's only a minor difference, and in BC, the liberals are the right wing party.
They have nothing to do with the national liberals.

I've been following the campaign, and it would appear the NDP under Ms. James has taken a sharp turn to the right.  Whereas the Liberals are way out in right field.

Which in American political terms means the NDP is only left instead of far left and the Liberals are holding at center-left, correct?
*whistles innocently*

No. The BC "Liberals"are nothing at all like the Federal Liberals, and have no ties with them.
The NDP is only left instead of far left, and the Liberals are right. Or possibly Center Right in American terms.

I think he's referring to them being compared to American politics, which I feel his analysis is actually accurate.

To all of you plus Gabu: you do know I was having some fun with you, right?

The reactions were interesting nonetheless.

[Gabu]

To all of you plus Gabu: you do know I was having some fun with you, right?

The reactions were interesting nonetheless.

Me?  I didn't even respond to your comment.

[WMS]

To all of you plus Gabu: you do know I was having some fun with you, right?

The reactions were interesting nonetheless.

Me?  I didn't even respond to your comment.

I've been following the campaign, and it would appear the NDP under Ms. James has taken a sharp turn to the right.  Whereas the Liberals are way out in right field.

Which in American political terms means the NDP is only left instead of far left and the Liberals are holding at center-left, correct?
*whistles innocently*

No. The BC "Liberals"are nothing at all like the Federal Liberals, and have no ties with them.
The NDP is only left instead of far left, and the Liberals are right. Or possibly Center Right in American terms.

I wouldn't put them in quote-marks; it's just more that they're liberals in the classical sense of the word, rather than the modern North American sense.

But you particpated.

[Gabu]

But you particpated.

I feel so included.

[WMS]

But you particpated.

I feel so included.

Good, since you are!

[Siege40]

NDP/Yes.

Siege

[Hatman 🍁]

3 hours until polls close! CBC Newsworld will have live coverage from 11:00-midnight EST. After that I guess I will be timeshifting on CBC Vancouver.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I'm listening to CBC Radio One for coverage
http://www.cbc.ca/listen/streams/r1_vancouver_32.html

Are there any other places with audio/video feeds?

[Hatman 🍁]

At 9:05pm PST, Gordon Campbell's Liberals are declared winners with a majority government. Boo!

[Hatman 🍁]

The NDP is doing a lot better than most people predicted, the popular vote is close-ish. Adriane Carr is 3rd in her riding :S

As for STV, only one poll in so far, and it is 54% yes. (60% needed)

[Gabu]

I'm listening to CBC Radio One for coverage
http://www.cbc.ca/listen/streams/r1_vancouver_32.html

Are there any other places with audio/video feeds?

I dunno; I'm just periodically refreshing this page watching the results come in.

[Hatman 🍁]

Surprising leading/elected:
Liberals 40
NDP 30
Ind 1
8

[2952-0-0]

*prays that those who voted with Gabu on the referendum make up less than 40% of the population*

*also prays that the legislature be almost hung*

[Hatman 🍁]

Um... a minority is almost impossible!

Liberals 36
NDP 25
18

[Hatman 🍁]

STV referendum: 57-43 NGGGRRRRR!!! so close! juse need 3% more

[Gabu]

Um... a minority is almost impossible!

Liberals 36
NDP 25
18

I would presume that it doesn't add up to 79 because of ridings where nobody is either leading or elected, not because 18 seats have magically vanished off the face of the Earth.

[Hatman 🍁]

Um... a minority is almost impossible!

Liberals 36
NDP 25
18

I would presume that it doesn't add up to 79 because of ridings where nobody is either leading or elected, not because 18 seats have magically vanished off the face of the Earth.

That does add up to 79 btw

Liberals 40
NDP 29
TCTC 10

[Gabu]

Yes, I know; that was in reference to what you had said earlier.

PS: Booyah!  The Liberals officially have a majority and Gordon Campbell is the first two-term BC premier since 1983.

PPS: Also, Ida Chong won in my home riding, so w00tage all around.

[Hatman 🍁]

Yes, I know; that was in reference to what you had said earlier.

PS: Booyah!  The Liberals officially have a majority and Gordon Campbell is the first two-term BC premier since 1983.

PPS: Also, Ida Chong won in my home riding, so w00tage all around.

No w00tage for you. Gordon Campbell scares me, and should not be rewarded for driving drunk in Hawaii.