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Likely Voter
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« on: August 17, 2015, 02:46:06 PM »
« edited: August 18, 2015, 10:31:16 AM by Likely Voter »

If you can't beat em, join em? Scott Walker is embracing Trumpism.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/video/scott-walker-to-nbcs-kasie-hunt-we-should-stop-birthright-citizenship-506850371891

Also this morning when Walker was on Fox and Friends, Walker said his immigration plan would be 'very similiar' to Trump's, and he also called for building a wall.

The call to end birthright citizenship may become a new litmus test. Will be interesting to see where Bush and Rubio come down on this.
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2015, 03:07:30 PM »

Will this require a constitutional amendment??

There have been bills introduced in Congress to end birthright citizenship by redefining what it means to be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the USA. The latest by Iowa's Steve King (perhaps Walker is angling for a King endorsement?) and in the Senate by David Vitter.
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But even if it did pass, I suspect it would end up at SCOTUS
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2015, 05:34:16 PM »

I really think this is a critical moment for the GOP. Birthright citizenship has been a fringe issue in some conservative circles but others on the right have been opposed to ending it, including the Cato Institute and Grover Norquist's Americans For Tax Reform. One of the reasons is because ending the simple born = citizen formula would force the creation of a new and expensive federal bureaucracy to determine who is in and out of the club.

Back in 2013 the GOP 'Autopsy' of the 2012 election had only one policy proposal, adopt comprehensive immigration reform because it is a gateway to getting back non-white votes. Marco Rubio was dubbed the 'savior of the party' as he joined with Graham and McCain to push it through the Senate. But then things changed and that idea slowly died away and even Rubio backed away from his own bill. Now the leading candidate is calling for mass deportations and has brought up a policy idea (ending birthright citizenship) that had been limited to the likes of Peter King and Louie Gohmert.....The GOP is on the brink of the term 'anchor babies' coming up in a GOP debate seen by 20M+ people. 

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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2015, 12:07:55 AM »

Naturally earlier today Bobby 'hey remember me' Jindal tweeted out his support for ending birthright citizenship. And in the past Kasich, Graham, Paul and Santorum have also said they want it to end.

As for Jeb 'coming to this country is an act of love' Bush, well he also seems to be on board with the war against anchor babies, but he is concerned about the legal logistics...
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So basically Bush is saying "Trump has the right idea, it just isn't practical (for now)"


Side note, now I am curious to know what are the other 9 things Bush hates in the Constitution.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2015, 09:00:50 PM »
« Edited: August 18, 2015, 09:03:56 PM by Likely Voter »

Ok, apparently Trump's position is even crazier than imagined. On O'Reilly he argued that people who are currently deemed to be citizens but are children of 'illegals' are not actually citizens, and so they will have their citizenship revoked and be deported. O'Reilly pointed out that there is this pesky 14th Amendment but Trump said that his lawyers say that wont be a problem. Trump dismissed the notion of a constitutional amendment and said he preferred to just go ahead and de-citizen the people and deport them.

Trump also scoffed at the notion that the mass deportations of millions would require due process or tie up the courts. Seriously. I think Reince Preibus may just shoot himself if this goes on much longer.

Watch it...
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-to-oreilly-the-14th-amendment-wont-hold-up-in-court/
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2015, 02:02:13 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2015, 02:03:44 PM by Likely Voter »

In another profile in courage, Walker is now waffling on birthright citizenship, with one of his trademark responses....
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2015, 11:16:16 PM »


While in this case a candidate's Billionaire backer moved him away from the crazy cliff, it is sad to see Walker bounce around this week like this. What else will Walker do once demanded by a single donor? What if Hubbard told Walker that he wanted to make Taco Tuesday Federally mandated? 

This kind of single guy with an agenda thing is what kept Gingrich alive so long last time. Sheldon Adelson single handedly fueled Newts campaign as long as Newt kept taking a hardline on Adelson's pet issue, Israel.

I hate to say it but this is one area where Trump has it right, the Super Pac donors are puppet-masters. Spending all their time with donors gets the candidates talking about donor issues like the "death tax" and ending Dodd Frank.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2015, 05:24:12 PM »

Today Walker evolved again, completing his flip flop...after being repeatedly pressed by George Stephanopoulos and trying to filibuster his way out of not talking about it, Walker finally said he was not for repealing the 14th amendment.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/scott-walker-hes-seeking-repeal-14th-amendment/story?id=33248403

So that is his position for now, let's see where it goes next week.




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