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Question: Do you support altering the 14th amendment to not include citizenship by birth in the US
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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2015, 02:07:47 PM »

If anchor babies are a myth, getting rid of birthright citizenship shouldn't be that big of a deal.
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2015, 03:47:35 PM »

If anchor babies are a myth, getting rid of birthright citizenship shouldn't be that big of a deal.
Fixed that for you.
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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2015, 05:55:31 PM »

The 14th Amendment is one of the best things the US has ever done. Please let's at least not change that.

This.
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2015, 10:22:01 PM »

No.  It's not a great way to assign citizenship, but it may be the least worst.
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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2015, 10:44:25 PM »

Yes. Citizenship should not be given to any single person who can arrange to pop out a kid on our soil. The 14th amendment was meant to ensure former slaves were all considered citizens. That goal has been acomplished. There is no need to give citizenship to every tourist or illegal immigrant's child born here.
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« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2015, 12:02:33 AM »

Anyone who answers yes to this question is someone with whom I would rather not share a country.
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« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2015, 12:26:34 AM »

I wish it was never put into the Constitution but now that its there I don't support removing it.
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« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2015, 12:46:42 AM »

Anyone who answers yes to this question is someone with whom I would rather not share a country.
Yeah i feel strongly about this too. 
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« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2015, 12:54:25 AM »

No, not at all.
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« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2015, 03:55:34 AM »

We literally have an issue where America is ahead of where most countries of the world will likely ever be. Let's not change that.

Have any posters from Australia, New Zealand, or Europe weighed in on what troglodytes we are for opposing birthright citizenship? Just curious...

Not a perfect fit to your criteria but its one of those archiac and bizarre things about the United States to much of the world... similar to the United States's 2nd amendment. Enjoy your American Exceptionalism.
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« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2015, 01:22:46 PM »

We literally have an issue where America is ahead of where most countries of the world will likely ever be. Let's not change that.

Have any posters from Australia, New Zealand, or Europe weighed in on what troglodytes we are for opposing birthright citizenship? Just curious...

Not a perfect fit to your criteria but its one of those archiac and bizarre things about the United States to much of the world... similar to the United States's 2nd amendment. Enjoy your American Exceptionalism.


To call a pretty expansive and inclusive amendment 'archaic" is kind of odd.
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« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2015, 01:24:13 PM »

Doing so wouldn't be "all liberal all the time" would it?
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« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2015, 03:32:34 PM »

No (R), because it punishes children for a crime their parents committed.  Two wrongs don't make a right.
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« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2015, 05:35:06 PM »

Absolutely not. 
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« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2015, 06:11:33 PM »

No (D)
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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2015, 07:39:33 PM »

I support deporting anyone who's opposed to birthright citizenship.
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« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2015, 05:04:35 AM »
« Edited: August 21, 2015, 05:06:38 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

We literally have an issue where America is ahead of where most countries of the world will likely ever be. Let's not change that.

It's interesting how it's really a New World thing. Also, when you think of the 3 best countries on an issue in the Old Word, do you ever guess Pakistan, Cambodia, and Lesotho?

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« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2015, 05:43:40 AM »

We literally have an issue where America is ahead of where most countries of the world will likely ever be. Let's not change that.

Have any posters from Australia, New Zealand, or Europe weighed in on what troglodytes we are for opposing birthright citizenship? Just curious...

Not a perfect fit to your criteria but its one of those archiac and bizarre things about the United States to much of the world... similar to the United States's 2nd amendment. Enjoy your American Exceptionalism.


To call a pretty expansive and inclusive amendment 'archaic" is kind of odd.

That's exactly what it is. Now, the 14th amendment wasn't, really, created with immigrants in mind, as I'm sure you'll know; it was created, partly, to prevent the disenfranchisement of former slaves, which, of course, isn't a pressing matter anymore. However, going back to my initial point, the way the 14th amendment's purpose is being interpreted by some here is totally archaic. Birthright citizenship may have been an acceptable policy several centuries ago, during an era of small populations, ill-defined polities, relatively low levels of geographical mobility and very small states (government bureaucracy's were hardly in a position to catch 'illegal immigrants'), but doesn't hold water in an age where none of those things are true, at least in the West.

 I mean, take Europe, which is currently in the mist of what is perhaps the biggest series of external migrations since the Great Migrations of Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages. European countries can't simply allow for birthright citizenship, due to the sheer volume of immigrants (most of them illegal) currently entering the continent. It's not politically or governmentally tenable. I would argue the same about the United States, although illegal immigration across the Mexican border seems to have tapered off as of late. Birthright citizenship is an untenable policy when you have very large influxes of people entering a country illegally.
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« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2015, 06:54:47 AM »

No (not a racist lunatic with fantasies about ANCHOR BABIES being used to take advantage of our 'generous' (lmao) welfare state)

I don't think anyone has actually argued that.
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« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2015, 11:48:37 PM »

Ideally if one parent is here legally I support "Birthright Citizenship" but realistically that's not gonna happen in real life.
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« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2015, 03:27:16 AM »

No, Marco Rubio is right: Anchor Babies are people with stories. And so is everyone else. Ergo, everyone on Earth should be a US citizen. Come on in.
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« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2015, 09:09:03 PM »

No (not a racist lunatic with fantasies about ANCHOR BABIES being used to take advantage of our 'generous' (lmao) welfare state)
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« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2015, 09:16:44 PM »

No, it'd be a slippery slope if we did.
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« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2015, 09:33:54 PM »

The 14th Amendment is one of the best things the US has ever done. Please let's at least not change that.
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