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Question: Do you support altering the 14th amendment to not include citizenship by birth in the US
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« on: August 18, 2015, 08:10:58 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2015, 08:15:50 PM »
I support abolishing citizenship, yes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2015, 08:44:51 PM »
Yes (I/O)

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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2015, 09:42:50 PM »
Marginal yes.  For anyone born of a parent residing here legally, then yes they should have birthright citizenship regardless of the status of their parents. But for those born of residents who are not residing here legally, then only birthright resident alien status but not citizenship save by the same naturalization requirements of any other resident alien seeking to become a citizen.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2015, 09:52:56 PM »
No (R)
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2015, 09:53:37 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2015, 11:00:36 PM »
no {literally sane}
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2015, 11:02:15 PM »
Quote from: Walter Mondale on August 18, 2015, 08:15:50 PM
I support abolishing citizenship, yes.
As I support abolishing the State and borders, this.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2015, 11:16:59 PM »
No, I respect the constitution.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2015, 11:32:42 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2015, 12:09:15 AM by mencken »
Have any posters from Australia, New Zealand, or Europe weighed in on what troglodytes we are for opposing birthright citizenship? Just curious...
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2015, 12:04:54 AM »

I don't usually agree with you, but yeah, birthright citizenship is really, really important and needs to stay.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2015, 12:08:54 AM »
Quote from: mencken on August 18, 2015, 11:32:42 PM
Have any posters from Australia, New Zealand, or Europe weighed in on what a troglodyte we are on this issue for opposing this? Just curious
yeah, but they feel real bad about it.  And we should except more refugees.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2015, 12:49:19 AM »
Quote from: Delicious Steak Pentagram on August 18, 2015, 09:42:50 PM
Marginal yes.  For anyone born of a parent residing here legally, then yes they should have birthright citizenship regardless of the status of their parents. But for those born of residents who are not residing here legally, then only birthright resident alien status but not citizenship save by the same naturalization requirements of any other resident alien seeking to become a citizen.

Basically this
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2015, 01:37:22 AM »
« Edited: August 19, 2015, 01:42:52 AM by Moderate Hero Republican »
Only and Only for kids of illegal immigrants who have been in the US for less then 3 years. No one else though as that would be , insane, Anti-Immigrant, and would betray the principles of America that anyone who works hard and follows the law can have a successful life for themselves and their kids. So no as ending birthright citizenship would end it for kids of legal immigrants too.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2015, 03:54:53 AM »
The 14th Amendment is one of the best things the US has ever done. Please let's at least not change that.
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2015, 05:16:28 AM »
« Edited: August 19, 2015, 05:18:19 AM by DavidB. »
Not my place to have an opinion on this, but I feel I'd be "No (R)" if I were American.

And if birthright citizenship is to be abolished, then please don't do so because of a nutcase like Donald Trump and his crazy groupies.
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2015, 05:53:48 AM »
I'm sure you guys are fighting to get it in your countries then...
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2015, 06:31:49 AM »
« Edited: August 19, 2015, 06:35:41 AM by DavidB. »
Quote from: dead0man on August 19, 2015, 05:53:48 AM
I'm sure you guys are fighting to get it in your countries then...
Strange reply, not sure where this hostility is coming from. As I'm not an American citizen and as I've never been to the U.S., I have no horses in this race of yours, so I really couldn't care less if this will be changed or not. Even though I find it an interesting discussion from a theoretical/constitutional perspective, I am definitely not "fighting" for one side or the other.

However, ius soli hasn't been in our constitution for centuries - in fact, it is not even part of our constitution (or any law) right now, and no, I'm not "fighting" for that to be included. It would be pretty strange to do so, since we sadly don't have the right to control our own borders anymore. What's more, ius sanguinis makes much more sense in countries that are ethnically (relatively) homogenous, like European nations.
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2015, 09:00:44 AM »
If I were American, then of course.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2015, 09:09:39 AM »
If I was American I'd probably support it, yeah.
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2015, 09:15:18 AM »
Quote from: oakvale on August 19, 2015, 09:09:39 AM
If I was American I'd probably support it, yeah.

Oh for God's sake...
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2015, 11:30:49 AM »
No (R)

My parents came here legally, but were not citizens when I was born. It's in my own self-interest to support birthright citizenship.
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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2015, 11:37:31 AM »
No (not a racist lunatic with fantasies about ANCHOR BABIES being used to take advantage of our 'generous' (lmao) welfare state)
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2015, 11:49:42 AM »
Quote from: Αλληλεγγύη on August 19, 2015, 03:54:53 AM
The 14th Amendment is one of the best things the US has ever done. Please let's at least not change that.
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2015, 01:08:26 PM »
Quote from: TNF on August 19, 2015, 11:37:31 AM
No (not a racist lunatic with fantasies about ANCHOR BABIES being used to take advantage of our 'generous' (lmao) welfare state)
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