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« on: August 20, 2015, 04:18:56 PM »

As it will promote the cause of world peace, and is the best for both the rest of the world and the Iranian people, it is a Freedom Deal.
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2015, 04:32:34 PM »

Freedom Deal (not completely illiterate on foreign policy)
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2015, 05:41:14 PM »


yeah, I guess I'd call it a freedom deal compared to the alternative of not having a deal, but that's not saying much.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2015, 06:19:05 PM »

Freedom deal. There are a couple of odd points that make me question what the negotiators are thinking (i.e. how much the terms change after 10 years, which the NYT pointed out "amounts to a bet that after 15 years, Iran will be a far more cooperative international player"). But all in all, a whole lot better than going to war and a great triumph for the practical wing of international relations.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2015, 06:55:01 PM »

Freedom Deal (not completely illiterate on foreign policy)
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2015, 07:18:40 PM »

Horrible Deal (not an Obama or P5+1 apologist)
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2015, 07:26:00 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2015, 08:05:57 PM »

The best we can get.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2015, 08:09:52 PM »

Its pretty bad, but its probably the most we can squeeze out of Iran and its far better than doing nothing. So I'm mixed.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2015, 08:21:06 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2015, 09:18:01 PM »

Good in theory, but needs to have a way to make sure that Iran sticks to its end of the deal. Lean Freedom Deal.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2015, 12:06:50 AM »

Neither although I would probably support it, it really doesn't change much at all. It's basically just a note saying "okay, we PROBABLY won't be going to war in the next 10 years"
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2015, 12:54:53 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2015, 12:59:01 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2015, 01:02:07 AM »

Good in theory, but needs to have a way to make sure that Iran the United States sticks to its end of the deal. Lean Freedom Deal.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2015, 04:40:05 AM »

The fact that it's supporters either are leery of the deal or see the need to make fun of EVERYbody that opposes it says a LOT.


Like a Dem President, I'm not for it, but I hope it works out for everybody.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2015, 10:44:10 AM »

Not perfect, (the fact that it continues restrictions on Iran's right to develop a nuclear energy program is pretty disturbing) but it's better than nothing. Ideally the U.S. would end all of its sanctions against Iran without requiring Iran to do anything, but unfortunately that's not politically feasible.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2015, 02:59:01 PM »

Undecided.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2015, 03:00:45 PM »

Against it....
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2015, 03:08:42 PM »


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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2015, 03:49:56 PM »

Not perfect, (the fact that it continues restrictions on Iran's right to develop a nuclear energy program is pretty disturbing) but it's better than nothing. Ideally the U.S. would end all of its sanctions against Iran without requiring Iran to do anything, but unfortunately that's not politically feasible.

That's crazy.  Iran could have had a nuclear energy program if they swore off nuclear weapons.  Yet, they chose to tank their economy because they wanted nuclear weapons that badly.  This was never about Iran having a peaceful nuclear energy program.  If you believe that, you're extremely gullible. 

Iran actually is a dangerous country.  They're an aggressive, authoritarian theocracy.  They have used WMDs.  And, they extensively use terrorism to threaten their neighbors.  They're a rogue state and they're the enemy of America. 

The reason that this is a good deal is that it stops Iranian progress towards nuclear weapons.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2015, 06:17:16 PM »

Horrible Deal. Iran should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons, given that not doing so essentially means forfeiting one's sovereignty as a nation at this point, given the repeated attempts of U.S. imperialism to instigate region-wide regime change that won't change anytime soon.
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2015, 11:07:33 PM »

Horrible Deal. Iran should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons, given that not doing so essentially means forfeiting one's sovereignty as a nation at this point, given the repeated attempts of U.S. imperialism to instigate region-wide regime change that won't change anytime soon.
My position is more or less this. I don't care that Iran has nukes and you are dangerously naive if you actually think they will use them.
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2015, 11:18:10 PM »

Horrible Deal. Iran should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons, given that not doing so essentially means forfeiting one's sovereignty as a nation at this point, given the repeated attempts of U.S. imperialism to instigate region-wide regime change that won't change anytime soon.
My position is more or less this. I don't care that Iran has nukes and you are dangerously naive if you actually think they will use them.

1.  You need to fire nuclear missiles to "use" them.  Nuclear blackmail against your neighbors and your own people is a thing.

2.  Iraq and Syria had nuclear programs.  And, Iran even tried to destroy the Iraqi nuclear program.  Are you glad that neither has nuclear weapons now?
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2015, 01:28:09 AM »

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