Trump: Make America White Again?

[Torie]

Do you think it's an unlucky coincidence that almost every single US, German, or other European journalist compares his immigration policies to George Wallace, Vladimir Putin, Adolf Hitler, Jean Marie Le Pen etcetera etcetera?

WTF? You just mentioned Hitler and Wallace in the same sentence with Putin, Le Pen and Trump. Trump may be an annoying race baiting populist, but he's certainly no Hitler. Hitler comparisons don't make you look mature, kewl or edgey, you know. Also, I haven't heard any journalist say that. It's a flat-out lie.

To be fair, Hitler knew how to organize his people. Trump doesn't seem to have that same understanding, even as the neonazis of America are embracing him like no candidate before.

True, but saying that he's worse than Hitler (that's directed at eric82oslo) is just silly.

Actually, you know what? No matter how cruel Hitler and his allies were, Hitler never deported people. The truth is that Trump's plan to deport between 11 and 12 million people would be by extremely far the greatest deportation effort in the history of human kind!

plz leave and never come back kthxbye

I only said that he's worse than Hitler in the sense that Hitler never deported people. Obviously, it's not humanly possible to become worse than Hitler even if you devoted your entire life in the pursuit of such.

Hitler did deport people. Beyond the obvious example of deportation to concentration camps, my former next door neighbor was deported. His family was Jewish, living in what was then Germany (now Poland), and although they considered themselves German, Hitler's gang considered them Polish, so they were deported to Poland in late 1938. Based on a claim of then being stateless, they were able to get a visa to come to the US in early 1939. That series of events turned out obviously to have saved their lives. They were one of the last Jews to get out before the door slammed shut. It had already been slammed shut in Germany, but not for them.

He had been my neighbor for close to 30 years, but had never told me that story, but finally did a couple of years ago. He dropped dead of a heart attack about a month later, so I was fortunate that he shared his story with me before his death. His daughter btw, much to his chagrin, was a Jew for Jesus, and lived in upstate NY, and was a big Santorum fan. His liberal Democratic reform Jewish daddy was not pleased with that state of affairs at all.

[eric82oslo]

Actually, you know what? No matter how cruel Hitler and his allies were, Hitler never deported people.

Please terminate yourself.

LOL.

[eric82oslo]

Do you think it's an unlucky coincidence that almost every single US, German, or other European journalist compares his immigration policies to George Wallace, Vladimir Putin, Adolf Hitler, Jean Marie Le Pen etcetera etcetera?

WTF? You just mentioned Hitler and Wallace in the same sentence with Putin, Le Pen and Trump. Trump may be an annoying race baiting populist, but he's certainly no Hitler. Hitler comparisons don't make you look mature, kewl or edgey, you know. Also, I haven't heard any journalist say that. It's a flat-out lie.

To be fair, Hitler knew how to organize his people. Trump doesn't seem to have that same understanding, even as the neonazis of America are embracing him like no candidate before.

True, but saying that he's worse than Hitler (that's directed at eric82oslo) is just silly.

Actually, you know what? No matter how cruel Hitler and his allies were, Hitler never deported people. The truth is that Trump's plan to deport between 11 and 12 million people would be by extremely far the greatest deportation effort in the history of human kind!

plz leave and never come back kthxbye

I only said that he's worse than Hitler in the sense that Hitler never deported people. Obviously, it's not humanly possible to become worse than Hitler even if you devoted your entire life in the pursuit of such.

Hitler did deport people.

Deportation within a "nation". That is quite different from escorting people to leave them on the outskirts of it. Immediately south of San Diego, next to the Rio Grande, in Mexico, there is now growing to become a whole slum city of people deported from the United States. People who have no home to go home to because they've basically lived their entire lives in the US and they don't have any close family outside of the US. That is deportation in practise. What Mister Trump loves so dearly. His very reason for being.

[Oak Hills]

Trump and his fans have yet to provide a shred of evidence that Mexico is "sending" people to the United States.  I'm not even sure how that would work.

[WVdemocrat]

Your thread title is wrong. He never said that.

You never said "blaxicans" either.

I said it. Several times. And there's nothing wrong with it.

Well, you're half right.  You certainly did say it several times.

What is wrong with "blaxicans"? Please say blasians all the time, and no one bats an eye. Bring Mexicans into it, and it's suddenly "horribly racist".

Mentioning race is not racist, even if he does it "many times">

I've never heard either of them used. They both sound horribly racist.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Trump and his fans have yet to provide a shred of evidence that Mexico is "sending" people to the United States.  I'm not even sure how that would work.

What Mexico had been doing was funneling a wave of Central Americans entering Mexico through its own Southern border through Mexico through the US.  These folks were, for the most part, very poor, and folks Mexico didn't want, but could not keep out, so they deliberately funneled them through Mexico to the US. 

My own personal solution would be to convince Mexico to allow us to build a wall on MEXICO'S Southern border and secure it.  That would be relatively cheap, and it would be a win-win situation for both the US and Mexico.  It would reduce the scope of the IMMEDIATE problem significantly.

[eric82oslo]

Trump and his fans have yet to provide a shred of evidence that Mexico is "sending" people to the United States.  I'm not even sure how that would work.

What Mexico had been doing was funneling a wave of Central Americans entering Mexico through its own Southern border through Mexico through the US.  These folks were, for the most part, very poor, and folks Mexico didn't want, but could not keep out, so they deliberately funneled them through Mexico to the US.  

My own personal solution would be to convince Mexico to allow us to build a wall on MEXICO'S Southern border and secure it.  That would be relatively cheap, and it would be a win-win situation for both the US and Mexico.  It would reduce the scope of the IMMEDIATE problem significantly.

Do you have a heart? You sound like the most egoistic person I've ever met. What's your problem with poor people? Why do you have such a lust to crush the poorest of poor human beings? You're such an idiot. Even Trump wouldn't go that far, and Trump is the Hitler of our time - far, far worse than Putin.

[SteveRogers]

I would like to know just exactly what is wrong with enforcing our current immigration laws and deporting those who meet that criteria? 

That isn't Trump's immigration plan.

[Maxwell]

I would like to know just exactly what is wrong with enforcing our current immigration laws and deporting those who meet that criteria? 

That isn't Trump's immigration plan.

Oh don't worry, it's just Fuzzy Bear being disingenuous as usual.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Trump and his fans have yet to provide a shred of evidence that Mexico is "sending" people to the United States.  I'm not even sure how that would work.

What Mexico had been doing was funneling a wave of Central Americans entering Mexico through its own Southern border through Mexico through the US.  These folks were, for the most part, very poor, and folks Mexico didn't want, but could not keep out, so they deliberately funneled them through Mexico to the US.  

My own personal solution would be to convince Mexico to allow us to build a wall on MEXICO'S Southern border and secure it.  That would be relatively cheap, and it would be a win-win situation for both the US and Mexico.  It would reduce the scope of the IMMEDIATE problem significantly.

Do you have a heart? You sound like the most egoistic person I've ever met. What's your problem with poor people? Why do you have such a lust to crush the poorest of poor human beings? You're such an idiot. Even Trump wouldn't go that far, and Trump is the Hitler of our time - far, far worse than Putin.

I have a problem with people streaming across our border because they are residents of failed states in Central America and Mexico doesn't want them, so they are encouraged to travel northward through Mexico by the Mexican government to enter the US illegally.  They are NOT our responsibility, and we have immigration laws that deserve the same respect as any other nation's immigration laws.

http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home

If these folks are truly refugees, they are the responsibility of the World Community through the UN.  It is the mission of the UNHCR to provide assistance to the "uprooted and stateless", and we ought to work to help such people THROUGH UNHCR. 

It is not the responsibility of the United States, however, to suspend its immigration laws just because people are poor in other parts of the world.  Our immigration laws and policies are supposed to serve the interests of the United States, and absorbing, on demand, folks from other countries just because they are poor is NOT in the interest of the United States of America or its citizens.

Is that an unreasonable statement?  Is that a racist statement? Is that an egotistical statement?  Or is that a statement of fact?  Just exactly when does America have the right to fully enforce the immigration laws it has, even those that call for deportation of those illegally here, and those that mandate secure borders?  What does full enforcement of our existing laws actually mean?  (The latter two questions are ones that I would really like answers on from all our Presidential candidates.)

That we have illegal aliens in our midst is a fact and a reality that will, I suppose, always be with us to some degree.  I get that, and it's not the end of the world, to a point.  That folks simply expect America to not enforce its existing immigration laws is another matter.  Laws are to be enforced, or else, we have the rule of men and not the rule of law.  That IS a big deal, and the fact that public officials are blowing off federal laws and creating "sanctuary cities" is a big deal.  What laws cease being a big deal once it's an open secret that our immigration laws are no big deal?

[eric82oslo]

Wouldn't be surprised if this was true.

And the story rolls on. Karma has made it such that his famous cap happens to be white, to further underline his boldness:

This is irrelevant, it's not even an issue. Why did you misquote him? Do you get paid by Ready For Hillary?

The only reason Hillary would be trying to knock out Trump at this stage would be that if Trump were to get to the general election, the Dems will be so overwhelmingly favored for next year that they could consider other options than her, much as they did in 2008. At this point she should be wanting the GOP to look like they have a chance so that Dems will be reluctant to spend time and money in a real primary race.

Wow. Couldn't have agreed more. Probably the smartest I've read all season long.