Trump: Make America White Again?

[bobloblaw]

Wouldn't be surprised if this was true.

And the story rolls on. Karma has made it such that his famous cap happens to be white, to further underline his boldness:

This is irrelevant, it's not even an issue. Why did you misquote him? Do you get paid by Ready For Hillary?

Libtaards in full panic mode

[bobloblaw]

Is this thread for real?  Jesus.

What's wrong with this thread? Everyone with a brain seems to agree with its premise. I'm happy that the intellectual level of Atlas is so high that 80% of its users easily sees through the intellectual shallowness of Trump, unlike in the real world. We are the elite, people. Also: We are the establishment, in some kind of weird way.

Deport Illegals and end the H1B visa program. Simple and nothing shallow about that unless you love low wages.

[bobloblaw]

I would like to know just exactly what is wrong with enforcing our current immigration laws and deporting those who meet that criteria? 

For those who are self loathing and hate American Exceptionalism, everything.

The left would prefer a third world America they can rule over in perpetuity rather than a first world America that might vote GOP once in a while.

Liberal's ultimate goal is the repeal of the American Revolution.

[bobloblaw]

Do you think it's an unlucky coincidence that almost every single US, German, or other European journalist compares his immigration policies to George Wallace, Vladimir Putin, Adolf Hitler, Jean Marie Le Pen etcetera etcetera?

WTF? You just mentioned Hitler and Wallace in the same sentence with Putin, Le Pen and Trump. Trump may be an annoying race baiting populist, but he's certainly no Hitler. Hitler comparisons don't make you look mature, kewl or edgey, you know. Also, I haven't heard any journalist say that. It's a flat-out lie.

Actually, you know what? No matter how cruel Hitler and his allies were, Hitler never deported people. The truth is that Trump's plan to deport between 11 and 12 million people would be by extremely far the greatest deportation effort in the history of human kind! The second biggest deportation campaign was considered one of the most racist campaigns in world history and involved Dominicans deporting a couple of million Haitians back to Haiti (and killing an extremly high percentage of them before they got anywhere). The human right abuses in that campaign are almost without precedent in American history. There have happened a few even more atrocious abuses in Latin America though, the most famous probably taking place in El Salvador and Paraguay, yet this deportation of Haitians might very well qualify in the top five of American human right abuses of all time.

Because Jews voluntarily showed up to Dachau and majdanek.

[bobloblaw]

The great thing about Trump is that he is bringing out the latent racism in America in a way that even Obama himself couldn't.

Because border integrity is racist. BTW what race are Mexicans anyways?

[bobloblaw]

Headline: liberals shocked at emergence of white identity politics after having pushed non-white identity politics for 30+ years.

If you keep telling whites they will soon be a minority, dont be shocked if they start acting like minorities. This is why 60% white support is a floor for the GOP not a ceiling. By mid 2020s, the GOP will easily surpass Nixon's 66% of the white vote he got in 1972 on the way to 70-75% by mid 2030s

[bobloblaw]

The great thing about Trump is that he is bringing out the latent racism in America in a way that even Obama himself couldn't.

Because border integrity is racist. BTW what race are Mexicans anyways?

Newsflash: low-information voters who fall for this nonsense don't make that distinction. Apparently, neither does Trump. Do you really think his dog-whistling has just been confined to one group of people? LOL. There's a reason nationalist and racist organizations in this country have so much overlap, and an even greater reason why they're all lining up lock, stock and barrel behind Trump like they haven't done with any modern presidential candidate.

Why dont you make the case for unlimited immigration and permanent low wages instead of yelling "racist". I can tell youve lost the argument. Screaming "Racist" is like yelling "Counter Revolution" among leftists. It is meant to avoid debate and silence any dissent.

[bobloblaw]

Those who support illegal immigration support the white Mexican elites who run the country there and refuse to make the social, economic and political changes necessary to make Mexico more inclusive and pluralistic and improve upward mobility. Instead the Mexican elites want to dump their social problems on the USA so they can continue their ruling class lifestyles and political power in Mexico.

There is nothing "progressive" about illegal immigration, which is why Caesar Chavez and Barbara Jordan opposed not only illegal immigration but wanted limits on legal immigration. Modern American progressives are allied with some of the most regressive groups of people in Mexico.

H1B Visas: Legalized indentured servitude.
Come to the USA, work in STEM and get paid 50% what Americans get paid for the same job. Youre visa is contingent on continued employment with your sponsored employer. No ability to move to a higher wage job, no ability to file greviences concerning your employer or employment situation.

Want to make Mexico more progressive? Deport Mexican illegals. End H1Bs and end the pipeline of cheap labor.

[bobloblaw]

The great thing about Trump is that he is bringing out the latent racism in America in a way that even Obama himself couldn't.

Because border integrity is racist. BTW what race are Mexicans anyways?

Newsflash: low-information voters who fall for this nonsense don't make that distinction. Apparently, neither does Trump. Do you really think his dog-whistling has just been confined to one group of people? LOL. There's a reason nationalist and racist organizations in this country have so much overlap, and an even greater reason why they're all lining up lock, stock and barrel behind Trump like they haven't done with any modern presidential candidate.

Why dont you make the case for unlimited immigration and permanent low wages instead of yelling "racist". I can tell youve lost the argument. Screaming "Racist" is like yelling "Counter Revolution" among leftists. It is meant to avoid debate and silence any dissent.

He's making electoral bank off of stoking subconscious racial sentiment in a group of people who continue to choose worshiping an objectively, socioeconomically inferior way of life and who, instead of blaming their own life choices for falling behind economically and otherwise, blame groups of people who are even more economically and socially disenfranchised in the American frame-work. What else do you call it? These low-info voters aren't frothing at the mouth because of "the rule of law" or whatever (though that's their PC line): they're upset because they believe they're being screwed out of what used to be automatically bestowed upon them by groups of people who always have and still do have it far worse than them. It's fueled by a combination of racial animus and scapegoating mixed with the age-old self-entitled dogma that white people think they're owed everything just by showing up.

You also failed to explain why all of these nationalist and racist organizations are now coming out of the woodwork to back one specific candidate if his message isn't anything other than blatant dog-whistling.

so you thank the lack of upward mobility that has exasserabated itself in the past 10 years is all about individual choices?

What racist organizations?? three guys in their mom's basement? How about CPUSA supporting Obama?

But again you cant defend low wage immigration, so you just yell racism. You cant debate, youre pathetic.

[bobloblaw]

The great thing about Trump is that he is bringing out the latent racism in America in a way that even Obama himself couldn't.

Because border integrity is racist. BTW what race are Mexicans anyways?

Newsflash: low-information voters who fall for this nonsense don't make that distinction. Apparently, neither does Trump. Do you really think his dog-whistling has just been confined to one group of people? LOL. There's a reason nationalist and racist organizations in this country have so much overlap, and an even greater reason why they're all lining up lock, stock and barrel behind Trump like they haven't done with any modern presidential candidate.

Why dont you make the case for unlimited immigration and permanent low wages instead of yelling "racist". I can tell youve lost the argument. Screaming "Racist" is like yelling "Counter Revolution" among leftists. It is meant to avoid debate and silence any dissent.

He's making electoral bank off of stoking subconscious racial sentiment in a group of people who continue to choose worshiping an objectively, socioeconomically inferior way of life and who, instead of blaming their own life choices for falling behind economically and otherwise, blame groups of people who are even more economically and socially disenfranchised in the American frame-work. What else do you call it? These low-info voters aren't frothing at the mouth because of "the rule of law" or whatever (though that's their PC line): they're upset because they believe they're being screwed out of what used to be automatically bestowed upon them by groups of people who always have and still do have it far worse than them. It's fueled by a combination of racial animus and scapegoating mixed with the age-old self-entitled dogma that white people think they're owed everything just by showing up.

You also failed to explain why all of these nationalist and racist organizations are now coming out of the woodwork to back one specific candidate if his message isn't anything other than blatant dog-whistling.

so you thank the lack of upward mobility that has exasserabated itself in the past 10 years is all about individual choices?

What racist organizations?? three guys in their mom's basement? How about CPUSA supporting Obama?

But again you cant defend low wage immigration, so you just yell racism. You cant debate, youre pathetic.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

yeah right....sheesh

[bobloblaw]

The great thing about Trump is that he is bringing out the latent racism in America in a way that even Obama himself couldn't.

Because border integrity is racist. BTW what race are Mexicans anyways?

Newsflash: low-information voters who fall for this nonsense don't make that distinction. Apparently, neither does Trump. Do you really think his dog-whistling has just been confined to one group of people? LOL. There's a reason nationalist and racist organizations in this country have so much overlap, and an even greater reason why they're all lining up lock, stock and barrel behind Trump like they haven't done with any modern presidential candidate.

Why dont you make the case for unlimited immigration and permanent low wages instead of yelling "racist". I can tell youve lost the argument. Screaming "Racist" is like yelling "Counter Revolution" among leftists. It is meant to avoid debate and silence any dissent.

He's making electoral bank off of stoking subconscious racial sentiment in a group of people who continue to choose worshiping an objectively, socioeconomically inferior way of life and who, instead of blaming their own life choices for falling behind economically and otherwise, blame groups of people who are even more economically and socially disenfranchised in the American frame-work. What else do you call it? These low-info voters aren't frothing at the mouth because of "the rule of law" or whatever (though that's their PC line): they're upset because they believe they're being screwed out of what used to be automatically bestowed upon them by groups of people who always have and still do have it far worse than them. It's fueled by a combination of racial animus and scapegoating mixed with the age-old self-entitled dogma that white people think they're owed everything just by showing up.

You also failed to explain why all of these nationalist and racist organizations are now coming out of the woodwork to back one specific candidate if his message isn't anything other than blatant dog-whistling.

so you thank the lack of upward mobility that has exasserabated itself in the past 10 years is all about individual choices?

What racist organizations?? three guys in their mom's basement? How about CPUSA supporting Obama?

But again you cant defend low wage immigration, so you just yell racism. You cant debate, youre pathetic.

The lack of economic mobility in white rural America has existed for far longer than a decade. It's existed for generations, and those with enough common sense to realize that they're not entitled to an equivalent way of life as those who are willing to work hard to educate themselves, learn new skills and take risks have and continue to still leave these areas in search of something better. Just like these immigrants. They too come mostly from rural, impoverished areas. What did they decide to do? Unlike their white American counterparts who piss their pants and blame everyone else for their problems, they actually took extraordinary risks just to be able to have a better life.

David Duke, Council of Conservative Citizens, American Renaissance, Stormfront, and the list goes on and on. And let's be real: the white nationalist movement in its organized state is mostly a bunch of basement-dwellers, because people who abandon the PC lines that most casual American racists and nationalists espouse - the ones who obsess over "white and European integrity" and aren't afraid to say it - are fycking jokes. That doesn't mean that they don't represent a much wider-held belief system in this country, and for all of their faults, they've never lined up so uniformly behind one race-baiting conservative in the past. The casual racists all across this country in white rural America is the far more important element, you're absolutely correct.

You want to solve the problem of immigration? Then stop punishing the people who are taking the job offers. It's really simple. A wall isn't going to stop it. Mass deportations are not going to stop it. If you knew anything about the overall flow and process, then it'd be painfully obvious, but you must be like the rest of your rural white conservative contemporaries who lack the ability to utilize critical thinking:

Want to make Mexico and America more progressive? Deport Mexican illegals. End H1Bs and end the pipeline of cheap labor. Implement $250,000 fines for each instance of undocumented employment discovered within a business. Apply it uniformly to all businesses - corporations and small businesses alike. Create a task force whose sole responsibility is to perform random work authorization checks on businesses. Revoke the concept of limited liability protection as it applies to LLCs for immigration violations. If the business or sole proprietor can't pay the fine in cash, then begin liquidating their business assets. If after that the fine isn't fully covered, automatically deduct 50% from all future income until the fine is paid.

Of course, you don't want to make either country more progressive or solve the problem of low-wage work, or else you'd pull your head out of your ass and stop blaming those who are willing to work harder than you for less than you, and instead, you'd start advocating going after the people who created the problem in the first place.

rural America??? How about all of America.

You make America more fair by raising wages through reducing supply of low ages workers, both legal and illegal. Mass deportations will stop illegal immigration, not being able to find work will stop illegal immigration. You must think people in other countries are stupid. If they know when they get here , they wont find employment and are at risk of deportation, they wont come here. You have very little regard for the basic intelligence of the people coming here.

The people who create the problem are in Mexico DF, The US Chamber of Commerce and the Democrat party.

[bobloblaw]

Immigration into America is not a RIGHT that foreigners enjoy.  It is something we bestow on the basis (at least in theory) of what is good for America.  If there's a coincidence of interest, great!

What people are upset with is that the new immigrants to the United States are not being assimilated into American life as in past generations.  This is ESPECIALLY true of Mexican immigrants, many of those who are LEGALLY here are here only to work.  They are "guest workers", and this is a European concept that hasn't worked out well for countries in Europe who have brought in Middle Eastern "guest workers".  They are not looking to assimilate into American life in the sense that the Italians and Eastern European immigrants of the Ellis Island era assimilated into American life.

The only question we have to decide in determining who does and doesn't come into America is the question of "Is this good or bad for America, and for the people who make up America?"  People ARE concerned with the changing demographics of America, because they are concerned that folks who are not vested in the current Middle American way of life will come to America, come to outnumber us, and impose a way of life on Americans that is the counterpoint to what we have now.  Already, we are becoming a Balkanized nation, where it is difficult to speak to all Americans as Americans without appearing "culturally insensitive".  A country that places a high priority on cultural sensitivity is a country which has already become Balkanized and a country where its politicians have made appeals to race, tribe, tongue, and foreign origin is a country that has ceased to be guided by its God and the sense of self-interest its God provides for it.

Good post. Im not huge on the God part at the end, but 99% agreement.

This is our country and we'll decide who comes here.

[bobloblaw]

You make America more fair by raising wages through reducing supply of low ages workers, both legal and illegal. Mass deportations will stop illegal immigration not being able to find work will stop illegal immigration. You must think people in other countries are stupid. If they know when they get here , they wont find employment and are at risk of deportation, they wont come here. You have very little regard for the basic intelligence of the people coming here.

The people who create the problem are in Mexico DF, The US Chamber of Commerce and the Democrat party.

They're not at risk of deportation now? We've deported more people than ever before under the Obama administration. We've been deporting more people than at any point in history. The net in-flow of immigration to this country is lower than at any point in recent memory, precisely because the economy isn't great and they know it's going to be much harder to find a job.

You stop illegal immigration by cutting off the reason they're coming here. They're not coming here to forge federal documents by the millions to collect your precious tax dollars like you probably presume. They're coming here to work. They know they can find work, because there is no tangible penalty for employers who hire them. They're willing to risk deportation - they've been doing it for decades, genius. The root cause of illegal immigration is the ability to find a job, and the businesses are the ones who created that root problem. You don't cure cancer by putting a bandage on it, which is what people who propose mass deportations and walls are saying. You do it by levying fines without exemption on businesses that equate to 20-30 years of savings they'd enjoy by hiring individuals without work authorization in this country. Again, I'll repeat:

Want to make Mexico and America more progressive? Deport Mexican illegals. End H1Bs and end the pipeline of cheap labor. Implement $250,000 fines for each instance of undocumented employment discovered within a business. Apply it uniformly to all businesses - corporations and small businesses alike. Create a task force whose sole responsibility is to perform random work authorization checks on businesses. Revoke the concept of limited liability protection as it applies to LLCs for immigration violations. If the business or sole proprietor can't pay the fine in cash, then begin liquidating their business assets. If after that the fine isn't fully covered, automatically deduct 50% from all future income until the fine is paid.

You end illegal immigration by stopping the elites in Mexico DF from sending them here. It should be a deep source of national shame that Mexico cannot and will not provide for their own citizens. But it isnt. Toss US employers in jail for hiring illegals.

Then at the same time end the H1B visa program