The topless parade. Pride or Shame?

[MaxQue]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

But said women can also make men 'terribles.'

Well, you're proving their point right here and right now.

[ElectionsGuy]

Also:

the girls who hate all boys

1. You say that like it's a bad thing.
2. band name

Because it is?

My problem is, you say that like it's a real thing. Feminazis don't exist. That is such a bullsh*t right-wing myth.

They definitely exist on the internet.

[Cory]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

typical aic mentality: words are difficult

[Cory]

typical aic mentality: words are difficult

Come again?

[Figueira]

I think prejudice is a bad thing even if it's against people who are generally more privileged. Understandable, sure, but still bad.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

typical aic mentality: words are difficult

Come again?

antisocial injustice cowards

[RFayette]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

Exactly.  I'm sick of this victim mindset that thinks it's OK to disrespect and hate men.  Just look at some of the comments after a guy's d!ck was sliced off by a crazy woman.....many people were laughing about it!  Had the roles been reversed, there would have been no laughing, nor should there have been.

[MaxQue]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

Exactly.  I'm sick of this victim mindset that thinks it's OK to disrespect and hate men.

You'll get respect once you deserve it. Respect is earned, not due by birth.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

Men, as a group, have way less to fear from women, as a group, than women, as a group, do from men, as a group, and, thus, dislike or hatred is genuinely a much more serious problem going in one direction than the other. It baffles me that this is controversial.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

Men, as a group, have way less to fear from women, as a group, than women, as a group, do from men, as a group, and, thus, dislike or hatred is genuinely a much more serious problem going in one direction than the other. It baffles me that this is controversial.

i mean, the thing is that this kind of sentiment usually comes from people who don't believe that women have more to fear from men than vice versa.

[DavidB.]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

Exactly. Another example of how feminism has derailed.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

Men, as a group, have way less to fear from women, as a group, than women, as a group, do from men, as a group, and, thus, dislike or hatred is genuinely a much more serious problem going in one direction than the other. It baffles me that this is controversial.

i mean, the thing is that this kind of sentiment usually comes from people who don't believe that women have more to fear from men than vice versa.

Really? That hasn't been the case in my experience, but my experience could be atypical.

[WVdemocrat]

A woman having a generalized dislike for men is, at worst, an undesirable but understandable inconvenience to men who aren't terribles and, at best, a deliciously frustrating encumbrance to men who are terribles.

Typical SJW mentality: It's okay when we do it!

Exactly.  I'm sick of this victim mindset that thinks it's OK to disrespect and hate men.  Just look at some of the comments after a guy's d!ck was sliced off by a crazy woman.....many people were laughing about it!  Had the roles been reversed, there would have been no laughing, nor should there have been.

What a bullsh*t statement. Feminists who hate men and want them all destroyed DO NOT EXIST! Turn off Fox News for once, and you'll see that poor people aren't just greedy, black people aren't just violent, and feminists DON'T HATE MEN.

[Türkisblau]

The men are the real victims... how's college going for you RFayette?

[Mr. Morden]

I'm not talking about beaches or something. You think it's normal for men to walk around through a city without a shirt on? Like, on the street, in the subway, in the supermarket, in Starbucks?

Oddly enough, this isn't all that uncommon in the suburb of Perth where I live.  I mean, most don't do it.  But it's not super uncommon.  Neither is people walking around barefoot, even in the grocery store.  I guess there is no Australian equivalent of "no shirt, no shoes, no service".  At least in Perth.  I never saw that when I was in Sydney.

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[DavidB.]

I'm not talking about beaches or something. You think it's normal for men to walk around through a city without a shirt on? Like, on the street, in the subway, in the supermarket, in Starbucks?

Oddly enough, this isn't all that uncommon in the suburb of Perth where I live.  I mean, most don't do it.  But it's not super uncommon.  Neither is people walking around barefoot, even in the grocery store.  I guess there is no Australian equivalent of "no shirt, no shoes, no service".  At least in Perth.  I never saw that when I was in Sydney.

With "normal" I didn't really mean "common", I meant "acceptable"/"appropriate". I should probably have clarified that. However, in Australia, I would probably be somewhat more tolerant of it, because it's laid-back Australia after all

A week ago, I saw a fat guy without a shirt in a Dutch supermarket. Super gross. I hope I don't have to see that ever again.

[Torie]

This phobia of "topless" men displayed here is really weird to me. Anyway, I am all in favor of topless men on the streets, but I digress. And thank heavens, my impression is that men going topless is not deemed as criminal indecent exposure, unlike perhaps for women, which then raises the issue as to whether that constitutes gender discrimination, which gets intermediate scrutiny if I recall correctly under the Constitution.

[nclib]

Topless women are not objectively harmful. Yes, it can be offensive and make people uncomfortable, but there are plenty of things are offensive or make people uncomfortable, that aren't illegal.

Also, female nipples have no public health issues that would apply to men's and women's genitals.

Our society considers massive cleavage acceptable, but women's nipples off limits, even though both can be sexually arousing.

America has very hypocritical attitudes with allowing far more exposure to violence than to sexuality/nudity.

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FF parade

[JerryArkansas]

It is a pair of fat filled sacks on the chest which hold the mammary glands.  Who cares if they are going to be shown.  Also if you can't keep it in your pants because you see a pair you need to learn some self control, cause that is just sad.

[Cassius]

Topless women are not objectively harmful. Yes, it can be offensive and make people uncomfortable, but there are plenty of things are offensive or make people uncomfortable, that aren't illegal.

Also, female nipples have no public health issues that would apply to men's and women's genitals.

Our society considers massive cleavage acceptable, but women's nipples off limits, even though both can be sexually arousing.

America has very hypocritical attitudes with allowing far more exposure to violence than to sexuality/nudity.

People need more exposure to violence. They don't need more exposure to sex and nudity.

[Badger]

Topless women are not objectively harmful. Yes, it can be offensive and make people uncomfortable, but there are plenty of things are offensive or make people uncomfortable, that aren't illegal.

Also, female nipples have no public health issues that would apply to men's and women's genitals.

Our society considers massive cleavage acceptable, but women's nipples off limits, even though both can be sexually arousing.

America has very hypocritical attitudes with allowing far more exposure to violence than to sexuality/nudity.

People need more exposure to violence. They don't need more exposure to sex and nudity.

you HAVE to be trolling now

[Cassius]

Topless women are not objectively harmful. Yes, it can be offensive and make people uncomfortable, but there are plenty of things are offensive or make people uncomfortable, that aren't illegal.

Also, female nipples have no public health issues that would apply to men's and women's genitals.

Our society considers massive cleavage acceptable, but women's nipples off limits, even though both can be sexually arousing.

America has very hypocritical attitudes with allowing far more exposure to violence than to sexuality/nudity.

People need more exposure to violence. They don't need more exposure to sex and nudity.

you HAVE to be trolling now

Well, I was phrasing my point in a somewhat unserious manner. However, I do believe that, while nowadays a lot of people are absolutely swamped in sexual stuff, whether it be online pornography, or 'artistic' depictions of sex or even simple discussion of sex, humans (in the West primarily) are ever more cut off from any kind of understanding and acceptance of violence and death. Things were different back in the day of course; most men would have fought in some military conflict, and those who hadn't would likely know someone who did, as was the case for women (although of course some women actually did fight in conflicts). Also, many families would know the trauma of losing a close loved one, whether it was from war, or, just as often, disease. Figures of authority weren't so inclined to shirk away from the rather harsh reality of life, which is that many people die, and not all of then for good or noble reasons.

Now, I'm not saying that the decline of military conflicts and falling rates of infant mortality and fatal illness in the West are bad things; I am very happy not to have been almost worked to death in a Japanese POW camp like my grandfather, and to have not died in the cradle as so many more babies used to do. I believe changes in these areas have been positive advancements. On the other hand, I believe that the decoupling of human life, for many people, from the regular experience of death and violence has not been a good thing either. I mean, take, for example, that photo of a dead Syrian child that caused so much fuss a few days ago. This, of course, is partly an example of the general awfulness of a lot of tabloid journalism, as with it's frankly cringe worthy coverage of the deaths of Princess Diana and Jade Goody respectively (I imagine you may not have heard of Jade Goody; consider yourself lucky). However, the reactions of many people to that photo were as, kf not more cringe worthy than the coverage itself. I mean you just had this ridiculous, never ending outpouring of online grief and, to quote Shakespeare, clamorous whining, from many people, over the fact that one child had died. I mean, when I saw that photo, I briefly felt sorry for the child and it's family, but then, you know, I moved on with my life, because I didn't know the kid and there was nothing that I could do to bring back the child anyway.

Some people, as I said before, thought rather differently, and launched themselves into this bizarre online campaign called 'refugees welcome'. I mean, let me be clear, migrants have been dying in droves for the past few months; in fact they've been dying on these types of journeys for decades. Yet of course because you didn't have photographers going around, snapping photos of dead children and pasting them onto news websites, the vast majority of westerners were protected from having to confront this sort of thing; living in their cosy, cosseted world in which violence and death only happen in far away places and in the movies. Then, the image of one dead child drives these people into a frenzy. My own simple view is that behaviour like this is pretty, well, pathetic and pointless, just as it was over the death of that goddamn lion (although that was even more ridiculous). People need to learn to accept and deal with the continuing issue of death and destruction in this world, and to learn, if need be, how to control their emotional response to these things. People should be wailing and gnashing their teeth (in 8 hopefully) when a loved parent or spouse dies, no when a lion or a child that they'd never met bites the dust. As I said at the start of my post, this is difficult for many because of their usual isolation from these issues (and of course because of the decline in any coherent belief in life after death, but that's a topic for another post). But people need to try, not least for the sake of my Facebook feed not being overrun with stomach churning paeans to the aforementioned dead lion or child from 'x, studies Sports Science and Colonic Irrigation at the University of Y Met'.