Can Trump just implode already?

[Jacobtm]

Trump can win the GE. Many people who wouldn't normally vote, who see the whole system as corrupt, will vote for him.

Millions of people see liberals winning time and time again, sees Republicans as capitulating time and time again, moving farther left every cycle. They're sick of it.

Last time around Republicans thought polls were underestimating Romney when really they were pretty accurate in predicting Obama's comfortable victory. This time around, with Trump being so unconventional and attracting people to vote who normally wouldn't, you can expect polls that have traditional models of likely voters to underestimate him.

That isn't to say he's a lock to win, but he can win. I can't imagine who in the world got excited for Romney, and he won over 45% of the popular vote. And Clinton/Sanders/Biden are certainly less galvanizing politicians than Obama is.

[Beezer]

Unstoppable.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/251864-gop-pollsters-legs-shaking-after-trump-focus-group

MOD EDIT: Pls don't post entire articles.

[RI]

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Amazing.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

You all completely underestimated Donald Trump two months ago and you're paying the price for it now. He is in it to win it and if you want to stop him you can't just wait and hope he goes away on his own.

This

[Simfan34]

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Amazing.

The ignorance of voters reaches new heights. I've long said that we need to consider new models of governance, and we should do so now more than ever.

[Beezer]

Jeb! needs to respond with a hat of his own. I suggest "Making America great and then even greater!"

[Vega]

Jeb! needs to respond with a hat of his own. I suggest "Making America great and then even greater!"

That would take way too much migrant labour to make.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Jeb! needs to respond with a hat of his own. I suggest "Making America great and then even greater!"

"America will be the greatest, classiest country the world has ever seen!"

[Torie]

I am rather amazed that American politics these days can really get this dumbed down. It's a reflection of the sad state of our educational system in part, which does a great job of educating the elite, while being largely a fail for most others. Which is in part why income inequality continues to grow. None of this is good. You youngs should worry.

[Beezer]

I for one think he is getting more entertaining than ever...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10sm-Cf5MG4

[Fuzzy Says: "Abolish NPR!"]

The GOP has four five choices:

1. Nominate Rubio
2. Nominate Bush
3. Nominate Paul
4. Nominate Kasich
5. Lose

FTFY

It's not impossible that they could nominate Trump and win.  It's also not impossible that they could nominate Trump and lose at the level of Michael Dukakis.

Had the GOP Establishment treated Trump like just another candidate (as they did Pat Robertson in 1988), they wouldn't be in this situation.  That way, the candidates could have disagreed with Trump while acknowledging him as one of the crowd and being "nice" to him.  Instead, they ganged up on him, and when that didn't work, they shifted in his direction on immigration, which smacks of insincerity.  Furthermore, the GOP's initial rejection of Trump was, in a real way, rejection of the voters who have flocked to Trump.  These folks haven't believed that the GOP was vested in the issues they were interested in, and when Trump was sent the message to "go away", it let the Trump voters (i. e. the new Perot voters) know that THEY weren't REALLY wanted in the GOP tent.  "We'll take your votes, but not your input." is the message Trump voters got from the GOP Establishment, and, now, the Establishment can't walk that back.

It's simple now:  The GOP Establishment has to come to an accommodation with Trump, which involves (A) treating him just like any other candidate, (B) stop the ganging up, and (C) allow him speaking time at the convention.  They HAVE to, or they will seriously alienate a constituency that ought to be enthusiastically voting Republican, but won't be if they consider themselves rejected.  Trump is not likely to get the nomination, but if he's denied the nomination because of every non-elected delegate and every delegate of every dropout candidate coalescing around the Establishment choice AND treated like a leper, well, there will be SOME kind of Electoral Hell to pay.

[bagelman]

Trump's not going to implode as long as the media continues to endlessly blab on about him and cover him at the expense of more promising GOP candidates. The media wants Clinton to win because she's able to pretend to be a progressive liberal democrat while being cozy with Wall St. cronies. The best way to make sure she wins is to associate the GOP with Trump, pushing the GOP further and further to the far-right and by doing so making moderate voters less likely to consider them.

[Fuzzy Says: "Abolish NPR!"]

The GOP deserves this.

You made a party for crazy, and crazy came. Deal with it.

At a certain level, this is true.

Illegal immigration, the issue which has given Trump much of his rocket fuel, isn't really one of the top drawer issues for the GOP (or, at least, it wasn't until recently).  What happened was that the GOP tried to have it both ways, blasting Obama for implementing the Dream Act by executive order, while promoting an "outreach" to Latinos in an effort to get back enough of the Latino vote to approach George W. Bush's 2004 levels.

If the GOP thinks Trump is wrong on immigration, perhaps they need to actually work to convince voters that he's wrong, and why he's wrong.  They don't want to do this, however, because (A) Ted Cruz and a couple of others won't go alone, and (B) they really don't have a plan, other than the Dream Act, and they don't want to be seen as co-opting anything Obama comes up with.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Trump's not going to implode as long as the media continues to endlessly blab on about him and cover him at the expense of more promising GOP candidates. The media wants Clinton to win because she's able to pretend to be a progressive liberal democrat while being cozy with Wall St. cronies. The best way to make sure she wins is to associate the GOP with Trump, pushing the GOP further and further to the far-right and by doing so making moderate voters less likely to consider them.

If that's the case (and it very well may be), then I think the media may be out-smarting itself. I don't like Trump, and I can't even really grok the appeal of his campaign. But its quite clear that he's excellent at generating his own buzz, and that he may be able to launch some devastating attacks on Hillary from unexpected quarters. She's a flawed candidate, who only has a shot at the White House because of how awful the Republican bench really is. But I'm starting to doubt that she's up to dealing with Trump, any more than Jeb has been.

[defe07]

Trump can win the GE. Many people who wouldn't normally vote, who see the whole system as corrupt, will vote for him.

Millions of people see liberals winning time and time again, sees Republicans as capitulating time and time again, moving farther left every cycle. They're sick of it.

Last time around Republicans thought polls were underestimating Romney when really they were pretty accurate in predicting Obama's comfortable victory. This time around, with Trump being so unconventional and attracting people to vote who normally wouldn't, you can expect polls that have traditional models of likely voters to underestimate him.

That isn't to say he's a lock to win, but he can win. I can't imagine who in the world got excited for Romney, and he won over 45% of the popular vote. And Clinton/Sanders/Biden are certainly less galvanizing politicians than Obama is.

Trump can win this way. This is how Jesse Ventura won the Governor's race in MN in 98. He won because he attracted voters that never voted before. Now that the idea of a GOP brokered convention being a plausible scenario, Trump will stay, Republican or not.

[publicunofficial]

A Trump presidency would be exhausting. Imagine a news story every time he says or does a ridiculous thing every day for 4 years.

[MasterJedi]

I still think he's a Hillary plant. Endorsed her in 2008, said she would make a good president. He's helping his buddy win the election.

[The Mikado]

Dammit guys, I was planning on bumping this thread after Iowa and you went and bumped it now!

EDIT:

You all completely underestimated Donald Trump two months ago and you're paying the price for it now. He is in it to win it and if you want to stop him you can't just wait and hope he goes away on his own.

At this point, given how weak Jeb is, your best anti-Trump option might be Ben Carson.

Did I call it or did I call it? Not bad for August 24th.

[MK]

What the GOP needs to do is embrace Trump as their front runner.   If another one of those attacks happen state side  that changes the game .  The Muslim ban wont seem all that extreme(as if it really is) .


They are trying to push Rubio but the guy has gained like 1-2% on avg since August and they have him on foxnews like every 10 mins.   The republican estab is the real issue with the party not Trump.


A Trump/Cruz ticket wouldnt be all that bad.

[Hillary pays minimum wage]

What the GOP needs to do is embrace Trump as their front runner.   If another one of those attacks happen state side  that changes the game .  The Muslim ban wont seem all that extreme(as if it really is) .


They are trying to push Rubio but the guy has gained like 1-2% on avg since August and they have him on foxnews like every 10 mins.   The republican estab is the real issue with the party not Trump.


A Trump/Cruz ticket wouldnt be all that bad.

Have you heard the possibility of Trump/Cuban?

[The Mikado]

I get the feeling that this thread will be bumped in November 2016 a few days after Trump wins the election with some people mocking this stuff.

Hi.

EDIT: This is good, too.

I hope he wins the nomination.

Like really there's NO WAY that he would win the GE.

Literally.

No way.

Stop that. Right now. This is called "hubris," and there's a goddess named Nemesis who comes and punishes people with it with hilariously ironic punishments. In this case, that's President Trump.

Never say that Trump is unelectable, that basically guarantees that he will be. See what's happening to the Republicans right now in their primary.

[Dereich]

Look at what you unleashed on the world Darthebearnc. Why did you do this?

[krazen1211]

Sorry, but this election is already over. It's better you accept it now.

Yep.

[Sumner 1868]

Sorry, but this election is already over. It's better you accept it now.

Yep.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=164000.msg3505352#msg3505352

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=163733.msg3501838#msg3501838

[MeanBeanMachine]

More frustration from the left?  It's ok you'll get over it.