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« on: August 27, 2015, 05:10:59 AM »

Clinton 42%
Bush 40%

Clinton 44%
Rubio 43%

Clinton 45%
Trump 41%

Biden 45%
Bush 39%

Biden 44%
Rubio 41%

Biden 48%
Trump 40%

Sanders 43%
Bush 49%

Sanders 40%
Rubio 41%

Sanders 44%
Trump 41%

Clinton 40%
Bush 24%
Trump 24%

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 05:14:53 AM »

Why is Bush doing the worst against Hillary but the best against Sanders?

Also, these results are highly inconsistent with Quinnipiac own state polling.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 06:13:34 AM »

Seems believable.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2015, 06:17:15 AM »

Seems very plausible; CLINTON reinforces the 272 map, CO; NV & Pa; while Biden can win either Va or OH. I want Biden to be Dems nominee.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 06:22:09 AM »

Hillary leads nationally but looses every swing state by large margins according to Quinnipiac...


Something doesn't add up.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2015, 06:33:39 AM »

Hillary leads nationally but looses every swing state by large margins according to Quinnipiac...


Something doesn't add up.

QU polls CO, IA, Pa the best; those are the 3 bellweathers along with NV; WI. I would pay attention to those states. But; PPP poll doesnt underpoll Clinton in CO.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2015, 06:37:40 AM »
« Edited: August 27, 2015, 06:39:13 AM by Phony Moderate »

Clinton third amongst white men in a Clinton-Bush-Trump general election. Lol. She is also at -12 favorability amongst registered voters; not much better than Trump's -18.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2015, 06:37:50 AM »

Well, good results for Biden.
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2015, 08:42:10 AM »

Can Biden's relatively good showing not be attributed to lesser media scrutiny on him lately, because he hasn't entered the race yet ? I think it can. Once he enters, he's gonna get his slice of the cake, and his numbers will decrease a few points like any other's.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2015, 08:43:28 AM »

Believable -- if the matter of the 'private server' has been shown to be either insignificant, innocent, or "no-harm, no-foul".

That was all that the Republicans had on Hillary Clinton. It's hard to see that subject imploding so fast -- but just look at the PPP poll of Mew Hampshire and contrast that to the fairly-recent PPP poll of Minnesota. Minnesota is much more D than New Hampshire.

Q just showed a national poll in which Hillary Clinton is doing far better than she did recently in such swing states as Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.  

I think that we are going to see the map of electoral projections going much more Atlas Red than it has been recently. Projections of Ohio and Pennsylvania going for any Republican nominee for President or Minnesota shaky
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2015, 08:47:33 AM »

Quinnipiac is either brilliant or their methodology is screwed.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2015, 12:52:52 PM »

Trump is within single digits of every plausible Democratic nominee. The argument that he could NEVER win a general is starting to look shaky.
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2015, 01:02:47 PM »

Trump is riding high in the polls due to his standing in GOP polls. Once Biden or Hilary debate him, he wont stand to challenge of birthright citizenship with Latinos and lose the Latino vote. But he will inherit alot of the evangelical vote found in 266 electors while dems win 272; just falling short of prez. But Jeb; Kaisch can actually win with Latinos.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2015, 01:06:19 PM »

Trump is riding high in the polls due to his standing in GOP polls. Once Biden or Hilary debate him, he wont stand to challenge of birthright citizenship with Latinos and lose the Latino vote.

Or, he will crush Biden or Hillary the way he crushed all his opposition thus far.
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2015, 01:09:53 PM »

CLINTON he can beat; not Biden.
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2015, 02:27:19 PM »

The 'first word that comes to mind' open question is interesting.

Here are top 5 for Clinton, Bush and Trum

Hillary Clinton
liar               
dishonest           
untrustworthy       
experience         
strong             

Jeb Bush
Bush (yes, the number one word that comes to mind for Jeb Bush is "Bush")               
family               
honest               
weak                 
brother             

Donald Trump
arrogant             
blowhard             
idiot               
businessman         
clown             
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2015, 03:38:07 PM »
« Edited: August 27, 2015, 03:43:55 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

You made a mistake. Sanders beats Bush 43-39. Which is better than Hillary does.
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2015, 03:41:51 PM »

You made a mistake. Sanders beats Bush 43-39. Which is better than Hillary does.

The OP has Bush beating Sanders 49-43.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2015, 03:44:19 PM »
« Edited: August 27, 2015, 03:46:10 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

You made a mistake. Sanders beats Bush 43-39. Which is better than Hillary does.

The OP has Bush beating Sanders 49-43.


If you actually look at the poll, you'll see it's Sanders beating Bush 43-39.

Compared to Hillary, Sanders is +2 against Bush, -2 against Rubio, and -1 against Trump. Really about equal there. He has 32-28 favorables, compared to her 39-51 favorables, so he definitely has more room to improve.
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2015, 07:46:41 PM »

http://cookpolitical.com/story/8608
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2012/11/08/president-obama-and-the-white-vote-no-problem/

So I noticed that it is widely assumed that the 2016 electorate will be 70% white, 2% lower than 2012, yet Quinnipiac is assuming 74% white for this poll. Also, Hispanics are assumed to be 7%, lower than they were in 2012?? I can understand perhaps Black enthusiasm may dip, but with Trump, and Hillary fighting for citizenship, I think the Latino vote continues to make a bigger part of the pie. Yet despite all of that, she leads them all Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2015, 08:39:51 PM »

With the couple months' news Hillary has been having, it's no surprise Biden is outperforming her. Most people still aren't paying that much attention yet, but it's nearly impossible not to have heard something about Hillary's email, which judging by her word association, isn't good for her. Granted, the GOP is enough of a mess that she still might win anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2015, 09:04:34 PM »

http://cookpolitical.com/story/8608
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2012/11/08/president-obama-and-the-white-vote-no-problem/

So I noticed that it is widely assumed that the 2016 electorate will be 70% white, 2% lower than 2012, yet Quinnipiac is assuming 74% white for this poll. Also, Hispanics are assumed to be 7%, lower than they were in 2012?? I can understand perhaps Black enthusiasm may dip, but with Trump, and Hillary fighting for citizenship, I think the Latino vote continues to make a bigger part of the pie. Yet despite all of that, she leads them all Smiley

Yeah, I read that, which is pretty much making me very wary of the Quinnipiac polls. Overestimating white turnout and underestimating minority turnout blew up in many faces in 2012, and, in fact, the GOP.
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2015, 09:32:12 PM »

With the couple months' news Hillary has been having, it's no surprise Biden is outperforming her. Most people still aren't paying that much attention yet, but it's nearly impossible not to have heard something about Hillary's email, which judging by her word association, isn't good for her. Granted, the GOP is enough of a mess that she still might win anyway.

Republicans have complained for the longest time that the media ignores Biden's gaffes as "just old Joe". If he's had the same scrutiny that Hillary has had, doubt he would be as strong.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/191855-biden-to-japanese-women-do-your-husbands-like-you-working
This alone is pretty devastating and more gaffetastic than many of Jeb's blunders.
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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2015, 09:34:22 PM »

With the couple months' news Hillary has been having, it's no surprise Biden is outperforming her. Most people still aren't paying that much attention yet, but it's nearly impossible not to have heard something about Hillary's email, which judging by her word association, isn't good for her. Granted, the GOP is enough of a mess that she still might win anyway.

Republicans have complained for the longest time that the media ignores Biden's gaffes as "just old Joe". If he's had the same scrutiny that Hillary has had, doubt he would be as strong.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/191855-biden-to-japanese-women-do-your-husbands-like-you-working
This alone is pretty devastating and more gaffetastic than many of Jeb's blunders.

That's a fair point, but only politicos are paying attention to Biden right now with any kind of scrutiny. There's no telling Biden's polling would hold up if he actually entered the race, but with as unpopular as pretty much everyone in this poll, it should be no surprise Biden polls better.
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2015, 10:18:42 PM »

Something's definitely fishy about Quinnipiac's polling. There's no way Hillary will win the popular vote while losing PA, CO, IA, and VA. It could be that their national numbers are off, but their statewide numbers are significantly more Republican-friendly than most pollsters.
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