Which Posters Should Change Their Political Party and Avatar?

[Figueira]

People use the same word for different things.


I would wager that the vast majority of 'Socialist' posters on here advocate with things more in line with Social Democracy in the same vein as many of the left leaning Western European Parties.

In that case we would need a social democrat avatar.


To me, Socialism is essentially a synonym to 'communism' in that the person advocating for this ideology promotes the overthrow of the capitalist state and the establishment of a marxist-leninsts style of government and economics. In other words, full revolutionary change, not just 'increase the minimum wage to $15' or whatever people in Seattle are up to these days. 

1. There is such a thing as democratic socialism.
2. Even if I decided that a Marxist-Leninist revolution was the best course of action (which I wouldn't, considering the outcome of such revolutions in the past), I would still vote Democratic in elections where my vote actually counts, since the chance of a revolution happening is pretty much 0%, and Democrats actually have a chance of getting elected. I'm not going to let the Republicans ruin the country on the off-chance that it might inspire some people to try to turn this country into the Soviet Union.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Of course TNF is the ultimate authority on who is and isn't a socialist.

[Figueira]

Of course TNF is the ultimate authority on who is and isn't a socialist.

I don't know how TNF became "the" socialist on this forum, but it's really annoying.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Of course TNF is the ultimate authority on who is and isn't a socialist.

I don't know how TNF became "the" socialist on this forum, but it's really annoying.

Mostly by constantly making angry rants about how awful "liberals" are.

[PJ]

Of course TNF is the ultimate authority on who is and isn't a socialist.

I don't know how TNF became "the" socialist on this forum, but it's really annoying.

Perhaps because he puts more effort into articulating his views than most socialists, let alone most posters on this forum.

Nevertheless, while there is a legitimate argument in favor of the idea that reformist socialism is an impossible goal, which is where I assume TNF is coming from, I'm becoming increasingly tired of the idea promoted by both socialists and non-socialists on this forum that reformist socialism is not "actual" socialism or whatever. The argument darthebearnc is using that anyone to the left of the Democrats are obligated to vote for them or the country will inevitably become a Republican hellhole is tiresomely annoying as well. The Democrats are a capitalist party in every sense of the word; that doesn't mean that socialists can never lend support to capitalist parties when necessary, or that they are obligated to.

The other argument is that avatars ought to be wholly and completely based off of party registration, which is a bizarre argument only applied to this particular situation. Why not also demand that every poster under 18 not display an avatar, or that every non-American poster wear an orange avatar? Avatars have never been completely linked to party registration, nor should they be now.

As for the original question, I think people are competent to decide that for themselves.

[Classic Conservative]

Turkiblasu he's socially conservative despite having a socialist avatar.

[PJ]

Turkiblasu he's socially conservative despite having a socialist avatar.

Oh and now I guess we're adding abortion to the five page Atlas Socialist Litmus Test. Gimme a break.

[Classic Conservative]

Turkiblasu he's socially conservative despite having a socialist avatar.

Oh and now I guess we're adding abortion to the five page Atlas Socialist Litmus Test. Gimme a break.

I'm pretty sure socialists have a +3.56 social score.

[PJ]

Turkiblasu he's socially conservative despite having a socialist avatar.

Oh and now I guess we're adding abortion to the five page Atlas Socialist Litmus Test. Gimme a break.

I'm pretty sure socialists have a +3.56 social score.

I'm pretty sure the political matrix has nothing to do with public ownership of industry.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I think that the point at which you get angry about avatars on a political discussion forum is the point at which you need to take a step back and seriously assess where you are going with your life.

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Of course TNF is the ultimate authority on who is and isn't a socialist.

I don't know how TNF became "the" socialist on this forum, but it's really annoying.

True, true.

[Leinad]

Anyone with a maroon avatar that supports the Democratic Party should use a red avatar.

Maroon is a shade of red.

Silly goose.

This kind of thing is why I voted HP.

Calling someone a "horrible person" is a pretty big insult when all you have against them is that they have a tendency to make stupid jokes.

I thought Turk was just remarking on Dar's love for Hewlett Packard...

I would wager that the vast majority of 'Socialist' posters on here advocate with things more in line with Social Democracy in the same vein as many of the left leaning Western European Parties.

In that case we would need a social democrat avatar.

But it's for parties, not ideologies. If we scrap Republican and Democrat and replace them with conservative, liberal, and moderate, then we can get a social democrat avatar.

Anyone with a maroon avatar that supports the Democratic Party should use a red avatar.

I'm a socialist, but I vote for the Democratic Party because I think they're slightly better than the Republicans, and those are sadly the only two relevant parties in most of the country.

If I changed my avatar though, I would change it to light green or orange.

If you vote Democratic, you aren't a socialist.

This is absolutely untrue. Any socialist who wants someone with similar views to actually win an election will vote Democratic.

It's partially untrue, but mostly true. If you vote Democrat, you can be a small-S socialist, but not a big-S Socialist unless you vote for that party. Again, it's parties, not ideologies, that's why we have Republican and Democrat instead of conservative/liberal/moderate.

[Antonio the Sixth]

However, if there is ONE user that should change his avatar, it is this guy:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=3373

He kinda makes me feel ashamed to have a green avatar.

More like the other way around.

[MT Treasurer]

However, if there is ONE user that should change his avatar, it is this guy:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=3373

He kinda makes me feel ashamed to have a green avatar.

More like the other way around.

Yawn.... err... I mean #rekt.

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Anyone with a maroon avatar that supports the Democratic Party should use a red avatar.

Maroon is a shade of red.

Silly goose.

This kind of thing is why I voted HP.

Calling someone a "horrible person" is a pretty big insult when all you have against them is that they have a tendency to make stupid jokes.

I thought Turk was just remarking on Dar's love for Hewlett Packard...

I don't know how to take this.

[NeverAgain]

Anyone with a maroon avatar that supports the Democratic Party should use a red avatar.

I'm a socialist, but I vote for the Democratic Party because I think they're slightly better than the Republicans, and those are sadly the only two relevant parties in most of the country.

If I changed my avatar though, I would change it to light green or orange.

If you vote Democratic, you aren't a socialist.

The Democratic-Socialist Movement begs to differ.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Anyone with a maroon avatar that supports the Democratic Party should use a red avatar.

I'm a socialist, but I vote for the Democratic Party because I think they're slightly better than the Republicans, and those are sadly the only two relevant parties in most of the country.

If I changed my avatar though, I would change it to light green or orange.

If you vote Democratic, you aren't a socialist.

This is absolutely untrue. Any socialist who wants someone with similar views to actually win an election will vote Democratic.

Exactly.  That's why Bernie Sanders is running for president as a Democrat.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

King should be yellow obviously.
Torie needs to go full socialist.
Lief is probably about right with the blue, but it was easier to recognize him that one week he went Constitution. Too many R-NY nuts.

Some other more serious ones
Wulfric (Constitution); TNVolunteer (GOP); Maxwell (Indy - We need you back! Just a smidge!)

The Constitution party doesn't support ObamaCare, raising the minimum wage, cutting defense spendimg, keeping the department of education intact, and not privatizing social security, all of which I support. And if you think I'm far-right socially, look at what the constitution party actually supports - they are against Abortion in cases of rape, incest, and even life of the mother, they oppose gay civil unions, and they oppose even medical marijuana. I don't hold any of those positions.