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Free Bird
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« on: September 09, 2015, 06:46:14 PM »

Phil Scott is the next governor of Vermont. Let's get that out of the way. This, Milne doing as well as he did, and Douglas prove Vermont isn't object to electing Republican governors or other statewide officials. But why not this breed nationally? Could Vermont elect one of their own unique brand of Republican to the Senate when Leahy or Sanders retire? Could a centrist like Pataki still win it in the EC? What IS the cause of all this?
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2015, 06:51:18 PM »

That's like asking Wyoming to elect Dave Freudenthal to the Senate. Not happening.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2015, 09:05:43 PM »

Wasn't Dave Freudenthal a popular governor?

And is Gary Trauner going to run for statewide office again?

As for the original poster's question, a Republican could get elected to the Senate from Vermont in a nasty three-way race a la the 2010 Maine gubernatorial election.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2015, 09:20:04 PM »

Phil Scott is the next governor of Vermont.

Citation needed.
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Free Bird
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2015, 09:33:30 PM »

The question isn't about who they elect, it's WHY they vote like they do. Even New York hasn't elected a Republican statewide since 2002, and Douglas survived TWO waves with ease, one of which saw an unabashed liberal elected to the senate.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2015, 03:06:06 PM »

Lets be honest, all of your threads start out the same stupid way and will continue to do so.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2015, 07:27:00 PM »

The question isn't about who they elect, it's WHY they vote like they do. Even New York hasn't elected a Republican statewide since 2002, and Douglas survived TWO waves with ease, one of which saw an unabashed liberal elected to the senate.

Douglas would be a Democrat in most stats, though.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2015, 07:40:16 PM »

Will you stop pretending that your preconceived notions are facts? As far as the question, Vermont occasionally elects Republicans for the same reason that Democrats still control local politics in numerous Southern states: it has a deeply republican history, so there can be an occasional favorability toward republicans with a different approach than their national counterparts out of partisan sentiment.

Lets be honest, all of your threads start out the same stupid way and will continue to do so.
You said you were like him once. Cut him a break.

The only way to possibly hope that someone will become a better poster is to criticize them when they make sh**tposts. No "free pass" bs.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2015, 10:50:02 PM »

On the flip side, Sanders won a decent number of Romney voters. In small states, people are more likely to vote for the person rather than the party/ideology.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2015, 04:05:52 PM »

No Vermont is not voting for a Republican for US Senate any time soon unless there is some drastic e-realignment in the Northeast towards the Republican Brand . I just don't see it seeing as Southerners are very disappointed with the Republican Brand and wanting to push the party a little more to the right.
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2015, 07:39:32 PM »

I support its banning Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2015, 09:14:14 PM »

Vermont will never elect a Republican at the federal level again. Only at the state level. Its one of those states, like Kentucky, where the national party is so far away from them but the state party still has power.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2015, 04:46:47 PM »


I'm certainly willing to believe that Phil Scott is a very strong candidate. That being said, Vermont is heading a certain way, Scott stands in opposition. I find it hard to believe that he is guaranteed the Governorship in the way you say Free Bird.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2015, 02:23:13 PM »

Lets be honest, all of your threads start out the same stupid way and will continue to do so.
You said you were like him once. Cut him a break.

Free Bird has been here for a good while now, he needs to realize that he can't make condescending posts and threads and expect people to not make snarky comments in response.

Free Bird is a cool dude, but needs to stop claiming things as facts when they are not facts.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2015, 12:47:54 AM »

Wasn't Dave Freudenthal a popular governor?

Being a popular Democratic Governor of Wyoming or a popular Republican Governor of Vermont doesn't make you an automatic favorite for the Senate... far from it, actually.

Just look at these examples:

1) Bill Weld used to be a wildly popular Republican Governor of Massachusetts, getting reelected with a whooping +70%. Two years later he lost a Senate race.

2) Bill Nelson was very popular as a Democratic Governor in Nebraska, also getting reelected with +70%, but two years later he lost a race for an open Senate seat by a landslide.

State and federal politics are very diffrent matters. Just get this to your bloody heads once and for all.
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2015, 02:32:37 PM »

Wasn't Dave Freudenthal a popular governor?

Being a popular Democratic Governor of Wyoming or a popular Republican Governor of Vermont doesn't make you an automatic favorite for the Senate... far from it, actually.

Just look at these examples:

1) Bill Weld used to be a wildly popular Republican Governor of Massachusetts, getting reelected with a whooping +70%. Two years later he lost a Senate race.

2) Bill Nelson was very popular as a Democratic Governor in Nebraska, also getting reelected with +70%, but two years later he lost a race for an open Senate seat by a landslide.

State and federal politics are very diffrent matters. Just get this to your bloody heads once and for all.


You're probably thinking of Ben Nelson here, no?
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2015, 03:29:32 PM »

Wasn't Dave Freudenthal a popular governor?

Being a popular Democratic Governor of Wyoming or a popular Republican Governor of Vermont doesn't make you an automatic favorite for the Senate... far from it, actually.

Just look at these examples:

1) Bill Weld used to be a wildly popular Republican Governor of Massachusetts, getting reelected with a whooping +70%. Two years later he lost a Senate race.

2) Bill Nelson was very popular as a Democratic Governor in Nebraska, also getting reelected with +70%, but two years later he lost a race for an open Senate seat by a landslide.

State and federal politics are very diffrent matters. Just get this to your bloody heads once and for all.


You're probably thinking of Ben Nelson here, no?

Yes. Sorry for a typo.
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