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« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2015, 07:23:40 AM »

Turnbull  certainly seems to be very reform minded and his theme is definitely about innovation and the future. He has indicated there will be policy changes, so I'm interested to see what they are exactly.
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« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2015, 07:55:27 AM »
« Edited: September 20, 2015, 08:14:22 AM by Talleyrand »

Joe Hockey is resigning from parliament, creating a byelection in North Sydney.

Apparently he is soon expected to be named Ambassador to the U.S., replacing Kim Beazley.

In other news, Knights and Dames are being scrapped!
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« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2015, 07:59:45 PM »

Turnbull's new ministry being sworn in.
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« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2015, 09:53:56 PM »

He referred to Turnbull as 'Mr Turnbull' and to Abbott as 'Prime Minister Abbott' lol.

Why Turnbull doesn't simply kick him out of the caucus?
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« Reply #104 on: September 20, 2015, 10:19:25 PM »

He referred to Turnbull as 'Mr Turnbull' and to Abbott as 'Prime Minister Abbott' lol.

Why Turnbull doesn't simply kick him out of the caucus?

Because that would be a needlessly antagonistic move in a party already dealing with internal infighting.
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« Reply #105 on: September 20, 2015, 11:28:03 PM »

He referred to Turnbull as 'Mr Turnbull' and to Abbott as 'Prime Minister Abbott' lol.

Why Turnbull doesn't simply kick him out of the caucus?

Because that would be a needlessly antagonistic move in a party already dealing with internal infighting.

And by not wanting him anywhere except the backbench he's made it very clear.
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« Reply #106 on: September 21, 2015, 12:10:54 PM »

In other news, that LOSER Andrew Bolt is continuing his hatchetjob on the new PM, pretending that he has not provided a dramatic change in the government's fortunes. He, Cory Bernardi, and Alan Jones should really be put in a chaff bag and thrown in the Tasman Sea, to use the latter's words! They are already trying to bring down Turnbull and cannot handle his success.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/new-prime-minister-is-malcolm-turnbull-the-liberal-partys-julia-gillard/story-fnj45fva-1227535945680
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« Reply #107 on: September 21, 2015, 04:21:41 PM »

Bronwyn Bishop confirmed to have abandoned Abbott last week over Choppergate.
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« Reply #108 on: September 21, 2015, 04:34:03 PM »


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« Reply #109 on: September 21, 2015, 05:13:49 PM »


Beyond embarrassing, and I say that as a strong Turnbull supporter. The only reason she ever became Speaker after her failed career in parliament was Abbott's personal friendship with her; he stood up for her again and again, even when literally almost everyone (including Turnbull) wanted to triage her ASAP during Choppergate.

Looks like she's getting an earful from the local party though! I hope she's deselected; she should retire, but her ego won't let her.

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« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2015, 05:30:44 PM »

She really did owe Abbott her support, since she was one of the primary reasons his leadership collapsed.

Looks like she'll leave politics hated by both sides and rightfully so.
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« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2015, 05:39:06 PM »

Talleyrand wtf is going on?
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« Reply #112 on: September 21, 2015, 05:58:48 PM »


I've switched my (previously reluctant) support for the inept and feckless Labor Party under Sleazy Shorten to the Malcolm Turnbull's Liberals. He is a proven success story and fierce fighter for the downtrodden who will be a unifying leader for Australia after the disgrace of Abbott. He will make the country a Republic, pass gay marriage, enforce a balanced budget, have a reasonable immigration policy, take on the union bosses, and make progress in the fight against climate change.

As Keating said, the man is absolutely brilliant and absolutely fearless. I suspect he will be PM for quite some time to come (possibly a decade or more, at least 5 years) and bring dignity back into the public sphere after the utter disgrace that has been the last 5-6 years.

I look forward to his landslide victory within the year.
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« Reply #113 on: September 21, 2015, 06:01:19 PM »


As Keating said, the man is absolutely brilliant and absolutely fearless.

You left out the "no judgement" part.
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« Reply #114 on: September 21, 2015, 07:08:01 PM »


As Keating said, the man is absolutely brilliant and absolutely fearless.

You left out the "no judgement" part.

Turnbull has consistently shown excellent judgment in his personal, political, and business life. Keating is a good judge of character, but that was an instance of him trying to score cheap political points.
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« Reply #115 on: September 21, 2015, 08:22:09 PM »

I like Turnbull a lot as a person, he is a serious improvement from Abbott. While I am cautiously optimistic that he'll improve government policy, I would need to see serious change in the Liberal Party policies towards welfare, education, industrial relations etc. before considering supporting them as a party, even under his leadership.

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« Reply #116 on: September 21, 2015, 10:09:13 PM »
« Edited: September 22, 2015, 12:06:45 AM by Barnes »

Newly appointed Special Minister of State Mal Brough plans to proceed with the proposed Senate voting reforms before the next election; Liberal Democrat Senator David Leyonhjelm has promised "outright war" from the crossbench if he does so.  

If this does get passed by the end of the Parliament it will be a wonderful series of reforms to the much beleaguered Senate voting system as it stands now and finally eliminate the absurd situation of having a senator elected with 0.5% of first preferences.
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« Reply #117 on: September 22, 2015, 12:00:08 AM »

It is always fun though seeing what interesting people get elected to the Senate though.
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« Reply #118 on: September 22, 2015, 02:48:52 AM »

There were always two things to look for if Abbott was going to go for an early election, a reshuffle and Senate voting reforms.

While I think March is more likely than November this year... If you start to see any significant policy shifts in the next month or so... it'll be shaping up for sooner, rather than later.
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« Reply #119 on: September 24, 2015, 08:29:42 PM »

The NSW ALP continues to make a strong recovery.



TPP
Coalition- 56% (+2)
Labor- 44% (-2)

Primary
Coalition- 47% (+1)
Labor- 33% (-1)
Greens- 11% (+1)
Otherd- 9% (-1)

Mike Baird Favorability
Approval- 63% (+6)
Disapproval- 23% (-6)

Luke Foley Favorability
Approval- 35% (-3)
Disapproval- 37% (0)

Preferred Premier
Baird- 57% (+3)
Foley- 19% (-8)

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2015/09/25/newspoll-56-44-to-coalition-in-nsw-3/
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« Reply #120 on: September 24, 2015, 10:03:58 PM »

I am happy to say that for the first time, I guess, ever (since I started to follow Australian politics, really),  I do not detest a Coalition government Smiley
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« Reply #121 on: September 24, 2015, 11:53:47 PM »

Is Turnbull really going to pass Senate reform? Ugh. At least the Republic remains a pipe dream. How soon can we get Abbott back?
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« Reply #122 on: September 25, 2015, 12:06:13 AM »


Hopefully, never.
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« Reply #123 on: September 25, 2015, 02:24:57 AM »

Is Turnbull really going to pass Senate reform? Ugh. At least the Republic remains a pipe dream. How soon can we get Abbott back?

Do you really enjoy being wrong?
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« Reply #124 on: September 25, 2015, 03:11:06 AM »

The NSW ALP continues to make a strong recovery.



TPP
Coalition- 56% (+2)
Labor- 44% (-2)

Primary
Coalition- 47% (+1)
Labor- 33% (-1)
Greens- 11% (+1)
Otherd- 9% (-1)

Mike Baird Favorability
Approval- 63% (+6)
Disapproval- 23% (-6)

Luke Foley Favorability
Approval- 35% (-3)
Disapproval- 37% (0)

Preferred Premier
Baird- 57% (+3)
Foley- 19% (-8)

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2015/09/25/newspoll-56-44-to-coalition-in-nsw-3/

Foley needs to go jfc. NSW Labor is such a damaged brand.
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