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Surprised they are not investigating Q & A for bias.

Tony Jones interrupts every Liberal member every 3 seconds on that show.

It's like TOny has an earpiece connected to Kevin Rudd.

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Polnut, why do people hate Bill Shorten so much?

We dont hate him. He is very uncharismatic.

He sits around 15% as preferred Priminister.

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One thing is for sure.

The Australian election cycle will be less interesting than an episode of RBT.

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Haha,

The whole Australian election covered in 2 posts.

I though Malcolm could have pushed the "children in detention" argument a lot harder.

Because no matter what argument ensues, Labor put them all there.

All I heard was Shorten saying Medicare was going to be privatised.

After Turnbull said, no, never about Medicare being sold off, I was convinced that he would not do it (even though it's probably a good thing) in this term, yet Shorten did not change tact.

That was pretty dumb.

I thought Labor could have won that election if they had a stronger candidate.

Plibersek maybe.

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BREAKING NEWS: Vegemite is set to return to Australian ownership

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-19/bega-buys-vegemite-mondelez/8193268

Vegemite has returned to Australian ownership after a hiatus of foreign ownership.



I thought it was lost forever.

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Bernardi will go well.

Pauline Hanson is someone who has been tainted with her views on immigrants and religion.

She will get 10-15% of the votes in the upcoming WA state election.

With Donald Trump being elected in the USA, there is a desire in Australia to introduce a Pauline style candidate but with a little more intelligence.

Pauline is a few Mb short of a Gb to pit it nicely.

But even so, very popular now.

It really comes down to what he is proposing.

Let's see his policies. We do have issues with home grown terrorism. We do have issues with massive welfare dependence by refugees. We do have issues with employment where manufacturing has gone to China and Japan.

Australia will go broke as a welfar state unless we turn it around.

If he sells that line, he will get votes.

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Quoted for posterity. In regional WA, she will go nuts.

It's amazing in the context that she only chose candidates three weeks ago, and then the election is a month away.

Some of the candidates were of questionable character.

Bernardi will be watching closely. He thinks he can pull off a Trumpy but our politcal system will shut him out.

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Follow live:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-07/politics-live-february-7/8244290

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-12/fallout-over-liberal-one-nation-preference-deal-in-wa/8263756

Haha. Liberal volunteers will be asked to hand out One Nation voter cards at the upcoming WA state election after the Liberals reached a deal with One Nation.

This election is all over now.



He has been there for 8 years, and we might get 12.

I don't mind Colin Barnett, but I think he has missed the financial gains that the mining boom should have delivered to the state coffers.

There are so many mining, oil and gas development projects that could have been setup better for the interests of the state rather than the corporate world.

Rio Tinto and BHP are crying poor at the threat of a new mining tax when they are the two largest mining companies in the world.  

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Newly popularised right wing red headed politician admires Vladimir Putin before upcoming election.

Wait.....hang on a sec....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-05/australia-wants-a-leader-like-putin,-hanson-says/8326254

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Pauline must think that copying Donald Trump word for word and saying controversial things will help get her exposure.

But we dont have any illegal immigrants anymore. Muslim immigration leading to terrorist activities is virtually non-existent.

So her only controversial position is she has a thing for Vladimir Putin.

Nonetheless it's working. Pauline is is sitting about 11% in the polls. Given the hidden orange haired loving silent voter effect, that number will probably end up around 18%.

She might win Kalgoorlie and a couple of regional seats.

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It was in Mandurah this afternoon.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/waelection/wa-election-2017-one-nation-leader-pauline-hanson-campaigns-in-wa/news-story/4c08ee3ded58f5c311653fa38d1a6096

Half way down.

Pauline is getting mass coverage akin to Donald Trump:

https://www.9now.com.au/a-current-affair/2017/clip-cizxwh8tu006e0gpmugj4sexh

Pauline could have killed that interview.

A Current Affair ran an extremely disturbing racially motivated muslim gang rape case 2 mins before that interview. If only Pauline had known, she could have accused Tracy of stirring up religious tensions herself.

Still, the two most powerful women in Australia is always a laugh.

Tracy ripped her a couple of times.

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As a fish batterer she can more credibly carry the 'populist' label than Trump, I suppose.

She is more popular now than in 1998.

Just surviving that long in politics and spending time in jail is a sign of a survival instinct.

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Has she explained why being swamped with Asians is no longer a problem?

Oh she stll believes that. She just lumps in Muslims with them, so now you get double the bigotry.

Pauline actually had an Asian woman as a candidate in her party, and sacked her for saying homophobic remarks.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/pauline-hanson-suspends-candidate-shan-ju-lin-over-homophobic-comments/news-story/a4950c36612f8f316bec6530bcf56ce9

Shan Ju Lin said that homosexuals should be treated like patients seeking medical attention.

To which Pauline said

“These are not the views shared by Pauline Hanson’s One Nation, now the views of your fellow candidates and the general public,” she said.

“I will not stand by and allow people to trash the Party or my name, so I make no apologies for being tough on candidates.”

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Salt Creek Backpacker Sexual Attack trial begins in Adelaide.

Two young foreign female backpackers from Germany and Brazil seeking to travel from Adelaide to Melbourne offered lift by 60 yo suspect.



Stopped and camped at a beach on the way. He has cut one girls bikini off with a knife when she was slightly drunk after walking her into remote sand dunes near the beach.

"He grabbed her, he pulled her to the ground face first, he positioned himself over her body preventing her from getting up. Then he produced a knife.

"The accused had total domination over her. With the flurry of a knife she was naked. Lying in the sand she was helpless."

She pointed out she would be more comfortable back in the beach side tent, so he walked her back there naked....

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/law-order/chilling-salt-creek-kidnapper-trial-in-the-sa-supreme-court/news-story/6a283115e7d8a3ff128d969cd473b732

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-09/salt-creek-trial-hears-alleged-kidnapper-was-armed-with-hammer/8338610

He has allegedly tried to strip them, bind them and sexually assault them in remote samd dunes. Amazing story of escape. This will end up being a movie.

Meanwhile, an English backpacker has been kidnapped in Queensland and kept as a sex slave for 2 months by a 22 year old man.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-07/rape-strangulation-charges-for-man-found-hiding-car/8330624

Going to jail for a very long time.

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This story has so many similarities to Wolf Creek, it's not funny...

Blood Everywhere: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-14/salt-creek-trial-hears-backpacker-covered-blood-police-responded/8353206

I am not going to die today: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-15/salt-creek-backpacker-tells-court-she-refused-to-die/8356880

Run over with a car multiple times: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-09/salt-creek-trial-hears-alleged-kidnapper-was-armed-with-hammer/8338610

OMG. This is the craziest story of backpacker survival since Joanne Lees escaped the evil clutches of the murderous Bradley John Murdoch.

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Pauline Hanson has come out and said Australia needs to be vaccinated against Islam.

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Australia's Top New Story for April.



Ben McCormack, the Current Affair reporter who chases paedophiles and suspected criminals around with a camera asking them juicy questions live on TV is himself arrested for child porn offences.

Did not see that coming.

I have lost all faith in Tracy Grimshaw and the team, but they did admit it live on air.

https://youtu.be/nseEDGGxbxo

If you cant trust A Current Affair to chase criminals live on air, who can you trust.

https://youtu.be/NJ2L1k0xee8

I like that Joe guy.

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Australia's Top New Story for April.



Ben McCormack, the Current Affair reporter who chases paedophiles and suspected criminals around with a camera asking them juicy questions live on TV is himself arrested for child porn offences.

Did not see that coming.

It takes a pedo to catch other pedos.

I've never had respect for either A Current Affair or Today Tonight. They're both pathetic excuses for journalism.

They are not journalism. I agree.

But i love the way the chase and confront people.

Check this cameraman out. Nails a dude whp sprays them with a fizzy drink outside court when they were filming his sister.

https://youtu.be/KsWgrJINr00

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Certain elements of the ABC are pro-Labor.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/federal-election-2016/qa-malcolm-turnbull-tony-jones-in-testy-exchange/news-story/2b720d349745fafab8c077f9dbb800b1

Tony Jones is Kevin Rudd in a slightly worse haircut.

He is ridiculous to Liberal members of the panel. He jumps in and explains Labor's position and always criticizes Liberal positions.

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Turnbull introduces tougher tests on citizenship for Africans.

More questions about wife beating and child marriage etc plus a 4 year wait for citizenship to be granted.

We are getting a lot of weird anti-social crime from our Sudanese immigrants perhaps?

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Turnbuull introduces tougher tests on citizenship for Africans.

More questions about wife beating and child marriage etc plus a 4 year wait for citizenship to be granted.

We are getting a lot of weird anti-social crime from our Sudanese immigrants perhaps?

The crime stats for Victoria show that only 4.8% of aggravated crime is committed by residents of African origin, so, at least in Victoria, the answer to that is no.  

In Victoria? That is the worst state for African crime:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-21/cyclist-slashed-robbed-in-random-attack-in-north-melbourne/8139622

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-22/woman-threatened-with-scissors-during-carjacking-in-melbourne/7868152

The one where three African immigrants stopped a woman on her bicycle and permanently disfigured her face with a knife.

That was freakin' disgraceful.

I am all for immigration, and pound for pound, Australia takes more UNHCR sponsored refugees than any other country on Earth.

We take more UNHCR refugees than the USA in total.

But, clearly.....Turnbull is responding to the increase in African immigrant related crime here.

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I dont think you are presenting a valid argument to support your original false point.

All you can muster is a tepid response that somehow the woman who got her faced slashed with a knife by African immigrants is somehow not valid because the media organisation that reported it was owned by Rupert Murdoch.

She was unarmed, innocent and the attack was unprovoked and has ruined her life.

Stay on topic. The point that you were making is this:

You said something like "Victoria does not have a problem with Sudanese or Somali immigrants."

I changed the links in the previous post to meet your elitist standard of media reporting, one which clearly may not be warranted.

My post therefore remains unchanged and you can debate it on the actual points.

And if you are only going to read the ABC, that is OK.

Read on:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-20/african-youth-crime-concerns/4210720

"Police have expressed concern over new figures that show Somali and Sudanese-born Victorians are five times more likely to commit crime than the wider community."

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2012/s3571895.htm

"The crime statistics come as no surprise to Abeselom Nega who recently met senior police to discuss ways to tackle the concerns. He says the statistics were confronting."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-18/inquiry-to-consider-revoking-visas-for-migrants-in-gangs/8036774

"He said that his focus was Melbourne, but was worried about violence spreading to other areas of the country."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/police-and-experts-gather-in-melbourne-to-discuss-youth-crime/7647594


"The fact is there's a group of very recidivist young offenders that are committing increasingly violent crimes and that does concern us,"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-28/south-sudanese-parents-sending-kids-to-africa-to-avoid-crime/8064540

"The community has been rocked by a recent rise in arrests of its young people for carjacking and home invasions, and the emergence of the Apex gang, which is made up largely of South Sudanese youth."

The African communities in Melbourne have issues in direct contrast to your first comment.

Malcolm Turnbull may have acted in a populist sense, but Australian residents are concerned about the vicious nature of the Somali and Sudanese crimes committed in Melbourne.

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Liberal's latest statement:

"It’s now been 1000 days since the last people smuggling boat reached Australia and more than three years since the last known death at sea at the hands of people smugglers.

Under Labor, Australia saw:
•   50,000 illegal maritime arrivals;
•   More than 800 people smuggling boats;
•   More than 8,000 children in detention; and
•   More than 1,200 deaths at sea
The Coalition Government has brought maritime people smuggling to a standstill and saved countless lives.

This success has enabled the Government to remove all children from detention and close 17 detention facilities."

Makes sense to me. Although I don't like their tolerance of the large mining companies not paying tax. Liberal's could have forced the oil and gas companies to manufacture their project in Australia, but let them off the hook.

Now, we have lost a lot of revenue as a result.

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