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« on: September 16, 2015, 08:48:07 AM »
« edited: September 16, 2015, 08:53:42 AM by politicus »

Topic: The ongoing media assault on Jeremy Corbyn.

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2015, 11:38:20 AM »

And a possible literal assault on the media
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2015, 12:52:29 PM »

John McDonnell is on the first episode of the new series of Question Time tomorrow evening, as is Alex Salmond. Should be fun.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2015, 01:23:39 PM »

Prime Ministers Questions was today replaced with 'Points Of View.'
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2015, 02:19:30 PM »

A totally unbiased commentary about Corbyn's PMQ
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 03:30:05 PM »


That's terrible news for Ed Miliband.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2015, 02:06:44 AM »

Prime Ministers Questions was today replaced with 'Points Of View.'

You say that like it's a bad thing.

"Traditional" PMQs is generally an opportunity for government MPs to ask tedious planted questions, for the PM to fail to answer opposition MPs' questions while delivering a few snide insults, and for our politicians generally to behave like particularly silly children.  It's been basically like this under at least four PMs, though the snide insults are something of a Cameron speciality.  That our political journalists seem to like it says more about them then about how valuable it is.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2015, 03:14:41 AM »

Prime Ministers Questions was today replaced with 'Points Of View.'

You say that like it's a bad thing.

"Traditional" PMQs is generally an opportunity for government MPs to ask tedious planted questions, for the PM to fail to answer opposition MPs' questions while delivering a few snide insults, and for our politicians generally to behave like particularly silly children.  It's been basically like this under at least four PMs, though the snide insults are something of a Cameron speciality.  That our political journalists seem to like it says more about them then about how valuable it is.

And Corbyn will revert to traditional PMQ's in a few weeks because deep down the parties like it too.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2015, 04:04:18 AM »

Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC seems to have joined the assault, and are trying to use him to attack Sanders.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-jeremy-corbyn_55f73339e4b00e2cd5e79e11
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2015, 04:09:37 AM »

Thread should be called "Media hatchet job watch"
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2015, 04:37:35 AM »

The first polling verdict.

Not exactly great, though maybe things will improve once the novelty has worn off and the media frenzy subsides.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2015, 04:47:13 AM »

Though the "Susan from Wherevershire wants to know"  part at the start of every question was tedious, I actually thought the new format with asking real questions, and sort of getting real answers were a good improvement, and Corbyn did handle it surprisingly well. Certainly better than I've ever seen Miliband handle PMQ:s.   
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 04:56:30 AM »

Personally I'd favour doing it the Aussie way and allowing MPs to say things such as:

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2015, 07:37:18 PM »

Seems it's now confirmed that Labour will be campaigning for a Yes to EU vote, which is fair enough, I don't think it was likely it was going to go any other way, but the PLP have helped defenestrate Labour from being able to effectively make demands of the PM for his 'revised EU' package we'll be voting on. It was one of the main things Labour could easily influence in this parliament (Cameron was absolutely banking on this for success), and they've helped undo it - to what end.

Also if the likes of Falconer, Green - people who've accepted roles in the cabinet - to then swiftly undermine him, continue to do so and the rest of the PLP strongarm into diluting his modest platform down (and I don't just mean jettisoning stuff like leaving NATO), then if they aren't careful any eventual failure will be seen not as a rejection of social democratic/anti-austerity/anti-war policies he's espoused, but as a rejection of the PLP-approved fudge and the circus they've helped allow.

But as a priority, I think Corbyn needs to spell out his reforms to internal party democracy. We've a conference coming up, what are we to be voting on? Will it matter? All these questions on policy from the media ought to be responded with reference to party members.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2015, 04:59:23 PM »

More examples of silly Corbyn bashing.

Corbyn is a terrible dresser, even UKIP leader Farage agrees.

He is unpatriotic for meeting with his constituents instead of watching rugby and is oddly fond of manhole covers, despite their sexist agenda.
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2015, 06:54:16 PM »


"even"?
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2015, 12:12:01 PM »

No Trident debate at Labour conference
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2015, 12:49:21 PM »


Of course there can't be.
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2015, 01:00:04 PM »

Corbyn new VP for Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34558956
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2015, 11:56:54 AM »


So, it'll be about as successful as Stop the War then.
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