MI-MRG: Clinton in close race with Bush, Fiorina, and Trump

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

This is a MI poll, not by a major - instant trash.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

This is a MI poll, not by a major - instant trash.

Again... why are we treating this poll like it should be listened to?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

This is a MI poll, not by a major - instant trash.

Again... why are we treating this poll like it should be listened to?

It's junk because I don't like the results...

Don't give me that. I've got a LONG record of paying no attention to the MI polling industry, why? Because they're universally terrible.

You need to do better than accuse someone of hackery as a default.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Fun fact: almost exactly four years ago, MRG put Obama only 1 point ahead of Romney in Michigan.  Over a year later he went on to win it by nearly 10 points, of course.

Shhhh.... do you want to be called a hack?!

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Clinton wont win the Wolverine state by 10, she should win the dtate by four, just like Kerry did over a decade ago.

MI, WI & Pa usually polls with Natl average and Clinton is leading by four.

That's... not accurate. Kerry lost the national PV by 2.5 but won all of those states.

For example, WI has been an average of +3 more D than the nation as a whole since 1992. The same is true for MI and slightly for PA.

I did the work for you

Since 1992
WI - D+3 vs D national popular vote
MI - D+3 vs D national popular vote
PA - D+1.5 v D national popular vote

So if say a Hillary were to win by the same margin as Obama 51-47 in 2016...
You'd expect
WI - 54%
MI - 54%
PA - 52.5%