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« on: September 19, 2015, 07:14:09 PM »

Christie's favorables were negative for quite some time and many people on here believed that the Republican Primary voters wouldn't nominate him due to his tendency towards corruption. Do you think these post debate results suggest a new trend for him? Or does it suggest that Bush is falling?

SOURCE: http://morningconsult.com/2015/09/poll-fiorina-wins-debate-trump-still-leads/
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2015, 07:15:23 PM »

Jebbers is collapsing. He should drop out.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2015, 07:16:09 PM »

Oy vey.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2015, 07:25:36 PM »

Just among people who saw the debate. But also no one is really bothering to attack Christie because he seems so irrelevant. Fiorina took a glancing shot but nothing severe.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2015, 07:37:45 PM »

Jeb! is losing support quickly. He's at 6% in the latest poll, and that should not be the situation for someone who received $120,000,000 as of July.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2015, 07:43:42 PM »

I'll wait to see what other polls say, but it looks like Christie is beginning to overtake Jeburary which, if true, is a sorry situation the Bush family.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2015, 09:09:21 PM »

That's actually quite surprising. Interesting
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2015, 11:08:47 PM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2015, 11:14:42 PM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.

Your hackishness is ridiculous.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2015, 11:18:17 PM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.

I haven't seen such servile devotion to a Republican Presidential candidate since Winfield's posts about Mitt Romney.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2015, 11:19:48 PM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.

Welcome to politics. Policy doesn't matter.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2015, 12:27:02 AM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.

To be fair, Bush was governing a purple state, while it's much more difficult for Christie as the governor of a very blue state. Bush was always going to institute more Conservative reforms than Christie ever could.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2015, 02:01:23 AM »

Wait Chris Christie gave falling schools money-Scum!

How long will it be until the Bush campaign tells Dudeabides to change his signature to attack Christie
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2015, 02:24:04 AM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.

I appreciate your hard work. I think you should ask Jeb!'s campaign to increase your pay.
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2015, 03:28:41 AM »

I, for one, have never written off Chris Christie and still have him down as a dark horse in this race.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2015, 05:12:07 AM »

It will change.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2015, 06:14:56 AM »

No Christie's favorables have not surpassed Bush's. Please put everyone except me on ignore.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2015, 11:09:20 AM »

Wait Chris Christie gave falling schools money-Scum!

How long will it be until the Bush campaign tells Dudeabides to change his signature to attack Christie

If Christie surpasses Kasich as a big "establishment" rival to Bush. The desperation in dudeabides' posts grows every day. It is laughable that he feels so threatened by John Kasich that he has to resort to changing his signature every few days with a new attack on him because Jeb!'s sucking the big one.

How much is Jeb! paying you, dudeabides? I'll give you double to leave the forum and never come back.
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2015, 11:31:22 AM »

He was a law & order guy, due to him being a US Attny. But was broght to reality during Bridgegate, that corruption is there also in Justice Dept
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2015, 01:27:05 PM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.

To be fair, Bush was governing a purple state, while it's much more difficult for Christie as the governor of a very blue state. Bush was always going to institute more Conservative reforms than Christie ever could.

Not to mention the Florida Democratic Party is kind of a joke,  while in New Jersey they're a very dominant force.
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2015, 01:28:25 PM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.

To be fair, Bush was governing a purple state, while it's much more difficult for Christie as the governor of a very blue state. Bush was always going to institute more Conservative reforms than Christie ever could.

Not to mention the Florida Democratic Party is kind of a joke,  while in New Jersey they're a very dominant force.

Florida will probably never be more Dem than GOP at the state levels as long as they have the likes of Crist, DWS, and Grayson.
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2015, 08:47:41 PM »

Wait Chris Christie gave falling schools money-Scum!

How long will it be until the Bush campaign tells Dudeabides to change his signature to attack Christie

About one day (See above)
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2015, 08:54:12 PM »

I'm sorry, but this just shows the stupidity of the average voter.

The guy who says he is running with heart is not as good as the guy who constantly throws temper-tantrums? Really?

Then you go to the policy issues. Jeb Bush cut taxes $19 billion, Chris Christie gave up on a small income tax cut he proposed and actually gutted tax relief for homeowners and at one point, working families before he restored it to run for President. Jeb Bush supported $456 million in eight years in corporate subsidies to the bio-tech industry, Chris Christie has supported over $2 billion in corporate subsidies last year alone to companies state government chose, they picked winners and losers. Jeb Bush reformed a major entitlement program, medicare, while Governor Christie has failed to fight for meaningful entitlement reform and has skipped state pension payments. Jeb Bush demanded accountability, expanded choice, and ended social promotion in 3rd grade in education; Chris Christie has continued to throw money at expensive failing schools while suburban taxpayers pay higher and higher property taxes. Jeb Bush fought for the sanctity of human life, Chris Christie has appointed and re-appointed liberal justices. Under Jeb Bush's leadership, Florida increased it's reserves by $8 billion and saw a credit upgrade, New Jersey's credit rating has been downgraded 9 times since Chris Christie took office.

To be fair, Bush was governing a purple state, while it's much more difficult for Christie as the governor of a very blue state. Bush was always going to institute more Conservative reforms than Christie ever could.

Not to mention the Florida Democratic Party is kind of a joke,  while in New Jersey they're a very dominant force.

Florida will probably never be more Dem than GOP at the state levels as long as they have the likes of Crist, DWS, and Grayson.

If Grayson is the Dem nominee he will get obliterated, he is WAY too liberal and crazy to win here.
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2015, 09:11:09 PM »

Wait Chris Christie gave falling schools money-Scum!

How long will it be until the Bush campaign tells Dudeabides to change his signature to attack Christie

If Christie surpasses Kasich as a big "establishment" rival to Bush. The desperation in dudeabides' posts grows every day. It is laughable that he feels so threatened by John Kasich that he has to resort to changing his signature every few days with a new attack on him because Jeb!'s sucking the big one.

How much is Jeb! paying you, dudeabides? I'll give you double to leave the forum and never come back.

If you look at the polls, you'll notice that Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio are ahead of Jeb Bush. By your logic, I should be attacking them, but I'm not. But, when your Governor is Paul LePage and your candidate for President is Chris Christie, I guess you lack logic. My reasons for attacking Kasich are in part because, yes, he is hurting Bush in New Hampshire, but also because I don't want the nominee of the Republican Party to be someone who will have to answer silly questions such as why he didn't hire more women or minorities as Governor of Ohio, and why he opposes Obamacare and yet supported the medicaid expansion. John Kasich is also for letting the Supreme Court dictate to executives and legislatures the laws of our country, Roe V. Wade is not the law of the land because of the court, it's the law of the land because the other two branches decided to go along with the court.
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2015, 09:13:48 PM »

Wait Chris Christie gave falling schools money-Scum!

How long will it be until the Bush campaign tells Dudeabides to change his signature to attack Christie

If Christie surpasses Kasich as a big "establishment" rival to Bush. The desperation in dudeabides' posts grows every day. It is laughable that he feels so threatened by John Kasich that he has to resort to changing his signature every few days with a new attack on him because Jeb!'s sucking the big one.

How much is Jeb! paying you, dudeabides? I'll give you double to leave the forum and never come back.

If you look at the polls, you'll notice that Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio are ahead of Jeb Bush. By your logic, I should be attacking them, but I'm not. But, when your Governor is Paul LePage and your candidate for President is Chris Christie, I guess you lack logic. My reasons for attacking Kasich are in part because, yes, he is hurting Bush in New Hampshire, but also because I don't want the nominee of the Republican Party to be someone who will have to answer silly questions such as why he didn't hire more women or minorities as Governor of Ohio, and why he opposes Obamacare and yet supported the medicaid expansion. John Kasich is also for letting the Supreme Court dictate to executives and legislatures the laws of our country, Roe V. Wade is not the law of the land because of the court, it's the law of the land because the other two branches decided to go along with the court.

says the guy that is supporting someone from the #BushCrimeFamily
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