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« on: September 20, 2015, 08:22:25 AM »
« edited: September 20, 2015, 09:03:20 AM by Ernestman »

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/11/alabama-lawmakers-may-reach-into-pockets-of-pornographers

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2015, 09:01:10 AM »

Pay for porn? Is the Internet in Alabama that bad?
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2015, 09:06:35 AM »

Pay for porn? Is the Internet in Alabama that bad?
Or maybe some  Alabamians realize that nohing one does on the interwebs  is truly private.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2015, 10:07:56 AM »

Very sensible proposal.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2015, 10:14:05 AM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2015, 10:41:01 AM »

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet
If you try to fap, I''l tax your porn
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2015, 11:37:05 AM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2015, 11:44:34 AM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2015, 12:19:03 PM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_of_pornography#Anti-pornography_feminism

I mean, obviously not all feminists have a negative attitude towards pornography, but it's not like anti-porn feminists don't exist.
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2015, 12:20:07 PM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_of_pornography#Anti-pornography_feminism

I mean, obviously not all feminists have a negative attitude towards pornography, but it's not like anti-porn feminists don't exist.

Tumblr has made them a lot more public for sure.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2015, 01:06:59 PM »

Obvious FF. We use the tax money to buy better plots for porn.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2015, 01:17:51 PM »

Obvious FF. We use the tax money to buy better plots for porn.

Who watches porn for the plot?
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2015, 01:19:20 PM »

Um will this not increase traffic to Internet porn sites?
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2015, 01:23:08 PM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_of_pornography#Anti-pornography_feminism

I mean, obviously not all feminists have a negative attitude towards pornography, but it's not like anti-porn feminists don't exist.

Tumblr has made them a lot more public for sure.

Tumblr? That website is like 95% porn!
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2015, 01:25:35 PM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_of_pornography#Anti-pornography_feminism

I mean, obviously not all feminists have a negative attitude towards pornography, but it's not like anti-porn feminists don't exist.

Tumblr has made them a lot more public for sure.

Tumblr? That website is like 95% porn!

I can say from prior experience that the non-SJW side of Tumblr is basically all porn.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2015, 01:29:54 PM »

Is this one area where the left and right agree?

Anyway, Alabama Republicans continue to be horrible.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2015, 02:21:39 PM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

Interesting that the only initiatives that seem to have come from feminists as far as sex is concerned involve restricting sexual activity between people who consent to do so (with the ongoing attempt to re-define rape, a horrible crime, to any sexual act wherein a verbal contract is not constantly affirmed throughout the act), prohibiting free sexual expression (attempts at banning pornography in the 1970s and 1980s, see the Minneapolis Anti-Pornography ordinance), and in general pushing puritanical moralism (women must be protected from men, who are all evil) rather than maybe, just maybe, accepting that women are as much sexual beings as men and should be treated as such rather than being treated as the perpetual victim of the uncontrolled sexual appetites of men and men alone.

I'll stop 'lumping all feminists together' when feminism, an ideology that designates the key conflict in society to be that between men and women, adopts a materialist outlook and realizes that the oppression and double exploitation of women (in the workplace and at home) is the result of class society, not a fictional, homogeneous block of evil men that seeks to exploit and oppress women just for the hell of it.

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.

I feel for you. Your entire brand of 'leftism' has so thoroughly digested feminist sectoralism that it prevents you from thinking beyond the bounds of it. It dumbs down your ability to analyze a situation, look for its causes, and propose solutions that don't involve becoming yet another accessory of the bourgeois state.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2015, 02:26:17 PM »

A tax is a good start, but I think this could only possibly even raise revenue in Oklahoma and Alabama as I learned from Update as it seems most people don't pay for goods (bads?) in this market.
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2015, 02:37:46 PM »

Seems like just another sin tax. FF
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2015, 03:22:08 PM »
« Edited: September 20, 2015, 03:23:47 PM by Californian Tony Returns »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.

I feel for you. Your entire brand of 'leftism' has so thoroughly digested feminist sectoralism that it prevents you from thinking beyond the bounds of it. It dumbs down your ability to analyze a situation, look for its causes, and propose solutions that don't involve becoming yet another accessory of the bourgeois state.

Pretty hilarious, considering your entire worldview is conditioned by the writings of a man who lived two centuries ago, and your cutting-edge analysis of the present situation is basically to say that everything is a "logical conclusion of capitalism".
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2015, 04:27:33 PM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.

I feel for you. Your entire brand of 'leftism' has so thoroughly digested feminist sectoralism that it prevents you from thinking beyond the bounds of it. It dumbs down your ability to analyze a situation, look for its causes, and propose solutions that don't involve becoming yet another accessory of the bourgeois state.

Pretty hilarious, considering your entire worldview is conditioned by the writings of a man who lived two centuries ago, and your cutting-edge analysis of the present situation is basically to say that everything is a "logical conclusion of capitalism".

Weird thing is, Marx predicted you'd say that.
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2015, 04:33:48 PM »

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

I feel for TNF. Having to find something to hate and despise about every subset of the left that isn't his own minuscule outfit can be a strenuous work.

I feel for you. Your entire brand of 'leftism' has so thoroughly digested feminist sectoralism that it prevents you from thinking beyond the bounds of it. It dumbs down your ability to analyze a situation, look for its causes, and propose solutions that don't involve becoming yet another accessory of the bourgeois state.

Pretty hilarious, considering your entire worldview is conditioned by the writings of a man who lived two centuries ago, and your cutting-edge analysis of the present situation is basically to say that everything is a "logical conclusion of capitalism".

Weird thing is, Marx predicted you'd say that.

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2015, 04:44:36 PM »

I don't really see any conceivable legitimate defense of porn as it exists as an industry even within a 'sex-positive' framework that doesn't mind it as a concept; as such, though I'm inclined to say that this is an FF move, there's something faintly unseemly about making that industry a revenue base.
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2015, 05:13:51 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_of_pornography#Anti-pornography_feminism

I mean, obviously not all feminists have a negative attitude towards pornography, but it's not like anti-porn feminists don't exist.

Tumblr has made them a lot more public for sure.

Tumblr? That website is like 95% porn!

I can say from prior experience that the non-SJW side of Tumblr is basically all porn.

And much of the SJW side too, no?

Finally, a policy that Christian fundamentalists and feminists can agree on! Sex haters of the world, unite! Roll Eyes

Yeah, feminists (who all think the same, natch) are totally sex-haters who want nothing more to tax porn. Roll Eyes

I'd say "stop living in the 1970s" but I'm not convinced your statement was true even back then (less false, maaaybe).

Interesting that the only initiatives that seem to have come from feminists as far as sex is concerned involve restricting sexual activity between people who consent to do so (with the ongoing attempt to re-define rape, a horrible crime, to any sexual act wherein a verbal contract is not constantly affirmed throughout the act), prohibiting free sexual expression (attempts at banning pornography in the 1970s and 1980s, see the Minneapolis Anti-Pornography ordinance), and in general pushing puritanical moralism (women must be protected from men, who are all evil) rather than maybe, just maybe, accepting that women are as much sexual beings as men and should be treated as such rather than being treated as the perpetual victim of the uncontrolled sexual appetites of men and men alone.

I'll stop 'lumping all feminists together' when feminism, an ideology that designates the key conflict in society to be that between men and women, adopts a materialist outlook and realizes that the oppression and double exploitation of women (in the workplace and at home) is the result of class society, not a fictional, homogeneous block of evil men that seeks to exploit and oppress women just for the hell of it.

I've definitely seen feminists frequently call for legalizing sex work and improving working conditions for women in that sector; call for better and more open sex education; and many other such things.  And, uh, isn't fighting for PP funding and access to women's health services the single most prominent feminist initiative?

If you don't see it I can only assume it's because you don't want to see it.

And that's a false caricature of affirmative consent laws; I mean, I'm not 100 percent sure that most of them as written would pass due process muster, but you do realize that non-verbal communication is a thing, no?  The point of those laws is, more than anything, to close the sorts of loopholes where someone can say "she was feelin' kinda standoffish, but then passed out because she was drunk, and didn't TECHNICALLY say no!"  The idea that they require written contracts or whatever is a ludicrous strawman.  (As is assuming that fringe groups from 40 years ago have anything to do with current thought- again, stop living in the past.)

As for your thoughts about "designating the key conflict in society"... ehhh.  Maybe there are multiple key conflicts in society that can't all be reduced to one pat explanation, and while they might interact with each other, require a diversity of approaches and focuses?  One can be a feminist without thinking that gender-based conflict and oppression is The Most Important Thing In The World.
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2015, 05:15:40 PM »

Yes, watch as the Alabama government, now dependent on porn revenue, desperately attempts to get its residents to buy and produce as much adult films as possible. The Governor of Alabama, amidst a budget crisis, will have to got television and plead that unless every Alabaman does his or her civic duty and masturbates to premium pornpgraphic services twice a day; the education budget gets it.
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