Santorum is toast

[King]

What about the base closings in the Western part of the state. Surely that won't help Santorum.

One in Allegheny county and one in the Philly suburbs. The two worst places it could happen for Santorum.

They were probably only hit because Pennsylvania voted for Kerry.  If you look at all the base changes, Bush states gain jobs while Kerry states lose them.  Pennsylvania unseating Santorum would just be asking for more punishment...

[Keystone Phil]

What the hell are they going to "hit" Casey on? The man has literally not done one thing controversial his whole career.

Oh I don't know. What's this? His fourth statewide run in six years? How about the fact that he had no intention of running until after the national party begged him?

[Joe Biden 2020]

What about the base closings in the Western part of the state. Surely that won't help Santorum.

One in Allegheny county and one in the Philly suburbs. The two worst places it could happen for Santorum.

They were probably only hit because Pennsylvania voted for Kerry. If you look at all the base changes, Bush states gain jobs while Kerry states lose them. Pennsylvania unseating Santorum would just be asking for more punishment...

I beg to differ with that.  Two states that Bush won that lost installations would be South Dakota and Alabama.  South Dakota is slated to lose its second-largest employer and Alabama apparently is losing quite a bit.  True, it is mostly Kerry states that are losing installations, but the Bush states are not immune.  Oklahoma is losing 6 smaller installations, namely 5 Army and 1 Army NG installation and one semi-major installation -- Altus AFB in Southwest, Oklahoma is being realigned.

[Jake]

Remember, this is before Congress gets ahold of these closures. I almost guarantee Ellsworth survives the cuts.

[AuH2O]

Ellsworth is supposedly already off the list.

If Casey has breathed wrong, the GOP will make him pay for it. His lack of accomplishments-- while insulating him from huge mistakes-- will be a key point.

[danwxman]

Ellsworth is supposedly already off the list.

If Casey has breathed wrong, the GOP will make him pay for it. His lack of accomplishments-- while insulating him from huge mistakes-- will be a key point.

Casey's record isn't vulnerable at all. He did a good job as Auditor General and as Treasurer his current plans are to cut a few jobs to get rid of some of the bureaucracy, that won't go over well with the people who get laid off but it will look pretty good to the economic conservatives/libertarians in the Southeast. The only critisism the GOP will wage against Casey is going to be aimed at his campaign....as it has been already.

Santorum on the other hand is a walking target.

[danwxman]

What the hell are they going to "hit" Casey on? The man has literally not done one thing controversial his whole career.

Oh I don't know. What's this? His fourth statewide run in six years? How about the fact that he had no intention of running until after the national party begged him?

Nobody cares about any of that stuff except for you.

[A18]

What the hell are they going to "hit" Casey on? The man has literally not done one thing controversial his whole career.

Oh I don't know. What's this? His fourth statewide run in six years? How about the fact that he had no intention of running until after the national party begged him?

Nobody cares about any of that stuff except for you.

Actually, fourth statewide run in six years is pretty pathetic. How can you even do that, in a state where elections occur once every two years?

[danwxman]

What the hell are they going to "hit" Casey on? The man has literally not done one thing controversial his whole career.

Oh I don't know. What's this? His fourth statewide run in six years? How about the fact that he had no intention of running until after the national party begged him?

Nobody cares about any of that stuff except for you.

Actually, fourth statewide run in six years is pretty pathetic. How can you even do that, in a state where elections occur once every two years?

Auditor General (2000) - Won
Dem nomination for Governor (2002) - Lost
State Treasurer (2004) - Won

He won two, lost one. He lost the most important one, but I'm kinda glad Rendell is Governor and not Casey.

[AuH2O]

Yeah, State Auditor. What's next, middle school class President?

His toughest race, he lost.

[danwxman]

Yeah, State Auditor. What's next, middle school class President?

His toughest race, he lost.

His campaign against Rendell was horrible. It centered around Rendell being a big-city liberal. Well, that didn't go over to well with most of the Democratic party.

[Keystone Phil]

What the hell are they going to "hit" Casey on? The man has literally not done one thing controversial his whole career.

Oh I don't know. What's this? His fourth statewide run in six years? How about the fact that he had no intention of running until after the national party begged him?

Nobody cares about any of that stuff except for you.

Actually, fourth statewide run in six years is pretty pathetic. How can you even do that, in a state where elections occur once every two years?

Auditor General (2000) - Won
Dem nomination for Governor (2002) - Lost
State Treasurer (2004) - Won

He won two, lost one. He lost the most important one, but I'm kinda glad Rendell is Governor and not Casey.

You're missing the point. The GOP will make the issue that he ran some many times the main point. Sure he'll say "Well I won" but this will be different. Now people might discover a running for office pattern with Casey.

Also, I am obviously not the only one that cares since it's been discussed as part of the GOP strategy already, genius.

[danwxman]

What the hell are they going to "hit" Casey on? The man has literally not done one thing controversial his whole career.

Oh I don't know. What's this? His fourth statewide run in six years? How about the fact that he had no intention of running until after the national party begged him?

Nobody cares about any of that stuff except for you.

Actually, fourth statewide run in six years is pretty pathetic. How can you even do that, in a state where elections occur once every two years?

Auditor General (2000) - Won
Dem nomination for Governor (2002) - Lost
State Treasurer (2004) - Won

He won two, lost one. He lost the most important one, but I'm kinda glad Rendell is Governor and not Casey.

You're missing the point. The GOP will make the issue that he ran some many times the main point. Sure he'll say "Well I won" but this will be different. Now people might discover a running for office pattern with Casey.

Also, I am obviously not the only one that cares since it's been discussed as part of the GOP strategy already, genius.

Not going to be an issue at all.

[Jake]

Nor will Santorum comments three years before.

[Moooooo]

Ellsworth is supposedly already off the list.

If Casey has breathed wrong, the GOP will make him pay for it. His lack of accomplishments-- while insulating him from huge mistakes-- will be a key point.

I hope your not assuming that the Santorum campaign will be the only one attacking.  Casey has some pretty nice "ammo" to use on Santorum.  SS, Schiavo, The Nuclear Option, Penn Hills, 40 hour work week, etc...

[Keystone Phil]

Nor will Santorum comments three years before.

That would never matter anyway. His approval ratings stayed the same after his comments. If there's one thing PA Dems have to realize, it is this: Santorum hating will not win them this race. SE PA might have it's fair share of Santorum haters but outside of this region, you would never win a race that was just anti-Santorum.

[AuH2O]

We've seen Santorum take the heat and stay strong. When Casey last took heat, he wilted.

Of course it will be flying both ways.

[WalterMitty]

casey is ron klink with a famous last name.

[J. J.]

There is another possibility.  Mclaughlin Group reported a rumor that Spector will resign, due to ill health.  Casey might be appointed.

[King]

There is another possibility.  Mclaughlin Group reported a rumor that Spector will resign, due to ill health.  Casey might be appointed.

Nah, Hafer will probably get that seat.

[Keystone Phil]

There is another possibility.  Mclaughlin Group reported a rumor that Spector will resign, due to ill health.  Casey might be appointed.

J.J., why would Rendell want Casey? They have a chance to beat Santorum with Casey and then have a guarenteed appointment pickup. It would make no sense for it to go to Casey. It would be Hafer.

[J. J.]

There is another possibility.  Mclaughlin Group reported a rumor that Spector will resign, due to ill health.  Casey might be appointed.

J.J., why would Rendell want Casey? They have a chance to beat Santorum with Casey and then have a guarenteed appointment pickup. It would make no sense for it to go to Casey. It would be Hafer.

Just reporting a rumor.  Rendell, might look at it as creating a "safe seat" and appealing to conservative Democrats.

[Keystone Phil]

There is another possibility.  Mclaughlin Group reported a rumor that Spector will resign, due to ill health.  Casey might be appointed.

J.J., why would Rendell want Casey? They have a chance to beat Santorum with Casey and then have a guarenteed appointment pickup. It would make no sense for it to go to Casey. It would be Hafer.

Just reporting a rumor.  Rendell, might look at it as creating a "safe seat" and appealing to conservative Democrats.

I'm not doubting that Specter might resign soon. I just don't see any good reasons for picking Casey.

[J. J.]

There is another possibility.  Mclaughlin Group reported a rumor that Spector will resign, due to ill health.  Casey might be appointed.

J.J., why would Rendell want Casey? They have a chance to beat Santorum with Casey and then have a guarenteed appointment pickup. It would make no sense for it to go to Casey. It would be Hafer.

Just reporting a rumor.  Rendell, might look at it as creating a "safe seat" and appealing to conservative Democrats.

I'm not doubting that Specter might resign soon. I just don't see any good reasons for picking Casey.

It's a safe choice and boosts Rendell with conservative Democrats.

[Keystone Phil]

There is another possibility.  Mclaughlin Group reported a rumor that Spector will resign, due to ill health.  Casey might be appointed.

J.J., why would Rendell want Casey? They have a chance to beat Santorum with Casey and then have a guarenteed appointment pickup. It would make no sense for it to go to Casey. It would be Hafer.

Just reporting a rumor.  Rendell, might look at it as creating a "safe seat" and appealing to conservative Democrats.

I'm not doubting that Specter might resign soon. I just don't see any good reasons for picking Casey.

It's a safe choice and boosts Rendell with conservative Democrats.

He could also do that with Tim Holden. Then again, the Dems would lose that seat.