Poll: How long do you give Mock Parliament?

[Lincoln Republican]

How long do you give Mock Parliament?

Please vote, and discuss if you wish.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

If we don't want Mock Parliament to be rude to us, we really shouldn't do this kind of stuff ourselves.

[Lincoln Republican]

If we don't want Mock Parliament to be rude to us, we really shouldn't do this kind of stuff ourselves.

This is a legitimate way to gage public opinion.

It is neither rude nor is it demeaning to Mock Parliament.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I don't know why both games can't exist or why those in mock parliament wish to kill off Atlasia. Live and let live, I say.

[Talleyrand]

I don't know why both games can't exist or why those in mock parliament wish to kill off Atlasia. Live and let live, I say.

I agree with this sentiment, although I think there are some very frightening reactionary elements in Atlasia (and especially the current Senate) who want to destroy Mock Parliament at all costs.

I am heartened to see that there are still a number of good individuals committed to this game though, including Truman and yourself. I suspect they make up a silent majority.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I don't know why both games can't exist or why those in mock parliament wish to kill off Atlasia. Live and let live, I say.

I agree with this sentiment, although I think there are some very frightening reactionary elements in Atlasia (and especially the current Senate) who want to destroy Mock Parliament at all costs.

I am heartened to see that there are still a number of good individuals committed to this game though, including Truman and yourself. I suspect they make up a silent majority.

I have no idea what's going on in the senate anymore, and no one in Atlasia knows who I am these days, and that's ok. My statement is just my sentiment on the matter of parliament v. Atlasia. If the senate is trying to destroy MP, shame on them.

[Lumine]

I'm sorry, how exactly is the current Senate trying to destroy the Mock Parliament?

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Just to clarify, I am unaware of any effort by the Senate to destabilize Mock Parliament. Unfortunately, the contention surrounding Bore's executive order seems to have fueled further ill-will between the two games. I can't speak for my colleagues, but as for myself, I objected to the order recognizing South America as a matter of Constitutional principle, not out of animosity towards our sister game. I would fully support efforts to recognize South America once this matter has been settled, and suspect many of my colleagues would as well.

[Talleyrand]

I am heartened to hear that, and hope you are right.

I had perceived the Senate's attempt to strip Bore's recognition of diplomatic relations with Mock Parliament as a slight motivated by anger. Perhaps I am wrong, but I doubt if he had recognized any other country, the outrage has copped would not occur. I am merely concerned by an increasingly disturbing mindset against the game. You have one Senator (and current presidential candidate) who has angrily denounced our attempts to have a full forum under fantasy elections, making the emotional and silly case that it would "confuse" people. You also have the Governor of one of this game's regions attacking people who left for mock parliament as killing this game and sophomoric-ally mocking the reasonable name we chose for ourselves. We have come harboring nothing but peaceful intentions and good will, but have been turned away by so many people in this game.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

yeah, the senate's recognition bill wasn't an attack on mock parliment, it was yet another power grab by the worst senate in history.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I am heartened to hear that, and hope you are right.

I had perceived the Senate's attempt to strip Bore's recognition of diplomatic relations with Mock Parliament as a slight motivated by anger. Perhaps I am wrong, but I doubt if he had recognized any other country, the outrage has copped would not occur. I am merely concerned by an increasingly disturbing mindset against the game. You have one Senator (and current presidential candidate) who has angrily denounced our attempts to have a full forum under fantasy elections, making the emotional and silly case that it would "confuse" people. You also have the Governor of one of this game's regions attacking people who left for mock parliament as killing this game and sophomoric-ally mocking the reasonable name we chose for ourselves. We have come harboring nothing but peaceful intentions and good will, but have been turned away by so many people in this game.

I think it goes both ways. There are unfortunately a small number of Atlasians who continue to hold a grudge against Mock Parliament; these sentiments of mistrust have been encouraged by statements from high-profile South Americans attacking Atlasia as a "socialist wasteland" populated by "pigheaded isolationists." I won't claim that Atlasia is innocent in this regard - we have our share of hot-heads, too. In the midst of the controversy, the president issued an executive order unilaterally recognizing South America, making it harder to distinguish between those who object to recognizing South America on principle and those who feel recognition should have been handled differently.

I don't think it accurate to compare recognizing South America with past diplomatic dealings in Atlasia, however. Establishing diplomatic ties with Mock Parliament - a separate game with its own laws, leaders, and agenda - is fundamentally different from the SoEA having "peace talks" with imaginary foreign leaders. Suffice to say, Mock Parliament's leaders think and act on their own, and thus it takes a little more effort to synchronize our universes than it does in what we might call "traditional" Atlasian diplomacy. I and others believe that we can make it work, but it's a big decision that should be carefully considered by all the parties involved, not unilaterally decreed by one man.

[Adam Griffin]

CALL IT

[Leinad]

Regarding the poll, it will either be <1 or >5. Most likely not in between. They have potential for sure, as long as they allow it to become more than merely a product of anti-Atlasian reactionism.

Despite what some would have you believe I think, I wish them well, and I hope we can establish relations, I'm just annoyed by how obsessively some of them hate Atlasia. It's not that I'm annoyed that they hate it, I'm annoyed how much they hate it--certainly way more than any half-sane person should hate an internet forum game.

You also have the Governor of one of this game's regions attacking people who left for mock parliament as killing this game and sophomoric-ally mocking the reasonable name we chose for ourselves.

Hey, that's me! I feel like a celebrity now...

Ahem...to your concern, I've never attacked people for leaving Atlasia for the mock parliament. I've attacked the actions of people (they know who they are) for frankly doing exactly what you attacked the Senate for--trying to destroy the game.

And I've never been against the mock parliament, just against the irrational anti-Atlasian sentiment that exists there (your Prime Minister has been going off the rails about what a socialist wasteland we are, for example). I was one of the most active members of the Provisional Parliament (where I was the only reason it wasn't an echo-chamber of boredom, and the main reason why your ban on simultaneous office-holding wasn't passed), and put effort into making newspaper--which I have not given up on, despite the fact I've lazily put it off for a while.

The point: the idea that anyone in Atlasia is as much anti-South America as probably half the people of the Mock Parliament are anti-Atlasia is malarkey, plain and simple. Also--don't put words in my mouth, I say more than enough without any help, thank you.

(And I genuinely think Sudamerica is still a better name than South America. I mean, mine is basically the same thing except it sounds objectively cooler and is in the area's most common language. It's bonkers how a group of people that generally were/are in favor of hyper-radical reforms to Atlasia chose literally the most vanilla name possible for their nation.)

[ZuWo]

It has potential but there are problems on the horizon as well. Both present-day Atlasia and Mock Parliament seem to suffer the same fate: the most important political figure (president here, prime minister there) hardly shows any signs of public activity.

Also, it surprises me that people who left Atlasia two months ago and called the game broken or worse are now coming back. That being said, if they aren't doing it just to spite those who want to improve Atlasia but have a genuine interest in helping they are welcome of course.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

yeah, the senate's recognition bill wasn't an attack on mock parliment, it was yet another power grab by the worst senate in history.

This "worst Senate" is the only thing that keeps the federal government running.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I am heartened to hear that, and hope you are right.

I had perceived the Senate's attempt to strip Bore's recognition of diplomatic relations with Mock Parliament as a slight motivated by anger. Perhaps I am wrong, but I doubt if he had recognized any other country, the outrage has copped would not occur. I am merely concerned by an increasingly disturbing mindset against the game. You have one Senator (and current presidential candidate) who has angrily denounced our attempts to have a full forum under fantasy elections, making the emotional and silly case that it would "confuse" people. You also have the Governor of one of this game's regions attacking people who left for mock parliament as killing this game and sophomoric-ally mocking the reasonable name we chose for ourselves. We have come harboring nothing but peaceful intentions and good will, but have been turned away by so many people in this game.

I'm sorry, but this seems awfully like "I'm holier than you" attitude. If you go read the Mock Parliament board, you'll see a lot of nasty things posted about Atlasia by the highest officials.

Anyway, being a sponsor of the Recognition Procedure Act, I'm obliged to say a few additional words. Recognizing the Mock Parliament can effectively change drastically the way this game is working and such decision simply should not be made by a single individual.

I have no problem with diplomatic relations, providing that a necessary framework is created (since having relations takes much more than "bah, I'm recognizing you"). If this is done, I'll be the first to vote for recognition.

[Lincoln Republican]

There is really no valid reason why both nations cannot exist in peace and harmony, and establish and successfully carry on diplomatic recognition and diplomatic relations with one another.

[Senator Cris]

There is really no valid reason why both nations cannot exist in peace and harmony, and establish and successfully carry on diplomatic recognition and diplomatic relations with one another.

I agree.

[Oakvale]

The weirdest thing about this is the insane proposition that we have to "synchronize" or whatever. There's literally never been an interesting foreign policy event in Atlasian history. It's either "today the SoEA bravely condemned ISIS" or "LOL NUKES XD".

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The weirdest thing about this is the insane proposition that we have to "synchronize" or whatever. There's literally never been an interesting foreign policy event in Atlasian history. It's either "today the SoEA bravely condemned ISIS" or "LOL NUKES XD".

Without synchronization, our foreign "relations" would be a meaningless waste of time. We may exchange a few empty notes or make a treaty of no consequence. Is that an "interesting" diplomacy? Of course not.

Oakvale, you're way too intelligent not to realize that, so I must assume you're bithing for the bitching's sake.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I personally hope Mock Parliament succeeds and lasts a long time. I have long been a proponent of having multiple nations that interacted and carried on meaningful foreign relations. This is a great opportunity for that to happen. Let's all make the most of it.

[Talleyrand]

     I personally hope Mock Parliament succeeds and lasts a long time. I have long been a proponent of having multiple nations that interacted and carried on meaningful foreign relations. This is a great opportunity for that to happen. Let's all make the most of it.

Glorious news!!! I am pleased to hear this, Senator, although I still cannot fathom why you are "boycotting" the speech by our Speaker of Parliament, a true friend of Atlasia. Do not believe the misinformation being propagated by a small, foaming at the mouth far-right minority in this game!

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

     I personally hope Mock Parliament succeeds and lasts a long time. I have long been a proponent of having multiple nations that interacted and carried on meaningful foreign relations. This is a great opportunity for that to happen. Let's all make the most of it.

Glorious news!!! I am pleased to hear this, Senator, although I still cannot fathom why you are "boycotting" the speech by our Speaker of Parliament, a true friend of Atlasia. Do not believe the misinformation being propagated by a small, foaming at the mouth far-right minority in this game!

I suppose Kalwejt and myself are part of this "far-right minority"? This story gets loopier by the minute.

Nevertheless, I will join my fellow Senator in wishing South America all the best, despite the actions of some of its citizens.

[Talleyrand]

     I personally hope Mock Parliament succeeds and lasts a long time. I have long been a proponent of having multiple nations that interacted and carried on meaningful foreign relations. This is a great opportunity for that to happen. Let's all make the most of it.

Glorious news!!! I am pleased to hear this, Senator, although I still cannot fathom why you are "boycotting" the speech by our Speaker of Parliament, a true friend of Atlasia. Do not believe the misinformation being propagated by a small, foaming at the mouth far-right minority in this game!

I suppose Kalwejt and myself are part of this "far-right minority"? This story gets loopier by the minute.

Nevertheless, I will join my fellow Senator in wishing South America all the best, despite the actions of some of its citizens.

No, you are not. Those who I am referring to know perfectly well who they are!

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

     I personally hope Mock Parliament succeeds and lasts a long time. I have long been a proponent of having multiple nations that interacted and carried on meaningful foreign relations. This is a great opportunity for that to happen. Let's all make the most of it.

Glorious news!!! I am pleased to hear this, Senator, although I still cannot fathom why you are "boycotting" the speech by our Speaker of Parliament, a true friend of Atlasia. Do not believe the misinformation being propagated by a small, foaming at the mouth far-right minority in this game!

I suppose Kalwejt and myself are part of this "far-right minority"? This story gets loopier by the minute.

Nevertheless, I will join my fellow Senator in wishing South America all the best, despite the actions of some of its citizens.

No, you are not. Those who I am referring to know perfectly well who they are!

Who then? Griffin? Windjammer? Both have been frequent targets of the current hysteria, and yet neither could be defined as "far right" by any stretch of the imagination. Then again, I am apparently a "fascist," so I don't suppose these labels mean much of anything.

If you really want to improve relations between Atlasia and South America, perhaps you could stop belittling everyone who disagrees with you. At this point, the combative attitude you and others have taken in recent weeks is the main reason I haven't moved to establish formal ties with Mock Parliament.