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« on: September 21, 2015, 03:35:47 PM »
« edited: September 21, 2015, 04:05:09 PM by Flo »

Sanders 31%
Clinton 30%
Biden 20%

Carson 23%
Trump 15%
Bush 12%

http://utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/today-at-utah-policy/7050-


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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2015, 03:44:25 PM »
« Edited: September 21, 2015, 03:48:04 PM by Mr. Morden »

Sorry, but this isn't a primary poll.  It's a poll of all adult Utahns, regardless of party.  So every respondent expressed a preference for both parties, rendering the poll useless.

EDIT: Actually, they do mention a few crosstabs, which makes it somewhat salvageable:

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So:

Dems

Sanders 31%
Clinton 30%
Biden 20%

GOP

Carson 23%
Trump 15%
Bush 12%

is all we have.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2015, 03:47:29 PM »

Sorry, but this isn't a primary poll.  It's a poll of all adult Utahns, regardless of party.  So every respondent expressed a preference for both parties, rendering the poll useless.


They have just Dems and just GOP as well:

Sanders 31%
Clinton 30%
Biden 20%

Carson 23%
Trump 15%
Bush 12%
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2015, 04:01:52 PM »

Dan Jones polls love to do this.   Grumpy
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2015, 04:02:59 PM »

A bit of good news for Sanders in otherwise troubling times (Sad)
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2015, 04:09:12 PM »

Is this the first time Sanders has been leading somewhere other than in his native New England and Iowa?
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2015, 04:44:40 PM »

What % of Republican primary voters in Utah are Mormon?  Not that Utah is all that important a primary state in and of itself, but Nevada is an early caucus state, and the Mormon vote is pretty important there in the GOP caucuses.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2015, 08:53:28 PM »

How come the numbers I see in the poll is different than reported above? Here's the Democratic one. Hillary in 3rd place!

Sanders 22%
Biden 16%
Clinton 11%
Webb 3%
O' Malley 2%
Chafee 2%
Other 10%
Don't know 34%

44% for other and don't know is crazy high.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2015, 08:55:29 PM »

How come the numbers I see in the poll is different than reported above? Here's the Democratic one. Hillary in 3rd place!

No, she's in 3rd place among all voters--both Democrats and Republicans.  They had all respondents to the poll answer the question for both primaries.  But if you restrict the Democratic primary poll question to Democrats only, then it's the #s now shown in the OP.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2015, 01:31:47 AM »

How come the numbers I see in the poll is different than reported above? Here's the Democratic one. Hillary in 3rd place!

No, she's in 3rd place among all voters--both Democrats and Republicans.  They had all respondents to the poll answer the question for both primaries.  But if you restrict the Democratic primary poll question to Democrats only, then it's the #s now shown in the OP.


I guess that was a little too good. But this poll is definitely evidence against the Hillary leads in 47 or 48 states meme.
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2015, 01:58:57 AM »

Guys, let's also be clear, Carson is not winning in Utah. Those mormans are powerful racist.
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2015, 05:15:12 AM »

What % of Republican primary voters in Utah are Mormon?  Not that Utah is all that important a primary state in and of itself, but Nevada is an early caucus state, and the Mormon vote is pretty important there in the GOP caucuses.


Probably 80-85%.
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2015, 11:31:00 AM »

I'm not surprised that Hillary isn't leading in Utah.  Utah Democrats, while a tiny minority, are actually pretty liberal and may be inclined to support Sanders.  Hillary didn't do too well in the state during the 2008 primaries.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2015, 04:33:18 PM »

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/dan-jones-associates-utahpolicy-com-22780

Full republican #s among republican voters.
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2015, 04:58:25 PM »


Carson 23%
Trump 15%
Bush 12%
Rubio 8%
Cruz 7%
Fiorina 5%
Walker 4%
Paul 3%
Christie 2%
Kasich 2%
Huckabee 1%
Santorum 1%
Graham 0%
Pataki 0%
Perry 0%
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