Quinnipiac nat.: D: Clinton 43% Sanders 25%; R: Trump 25% Carson 17% Fiorina 12%

[Mr. Morden]

Quinnipiac national poll, conducted Sept. 17-21:

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2283

Dems

Clinton 43%
Sanders 25%
Biden 18%
Chafee, O'Malley, Lessig, Webb 0%

Without Biden:

Clinton 53%
Sanders 30%
O’Malley 1%
Chafee, Lessig, Webb 0%

GOP

Trump 25%
Carson 17%
Fiorina 12%
Bush 10%
Rubio 9%
Cruz 7%
Huckabee 2%
Christie 2%
Kasich 2%
Paul 1%
Pataki 1%
Santorum, Graham, Jindal, Gilmore 0%

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O' Malley also had 0%. Interesting that only the top 3 candidates got anything.
They also polled without Biden
Clinton 53
Sanders 30
O'Malley 1
others 0

[Tender Branson]

Notice how 3 outsiders are now ahead in the GOP primary, while the political establishment candidates suck some balls.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

This poll does suggest a minor Bush bounce, but I'll take it with a grain of salt.

[Eraserhead]

Why does Carson continue to do well in general election polls? The man is a nut.

[Adam Griffin]

Why does Carson continue to do well in general election polls? The man is a nut.

Roughly 20% of Republicans are dead-set on proving to the world that they're totally not racists and do in fact have black friends

[Mr. Morden]

Why does Carson continue to do well in general election polls?

Once you go black, you don't go back.

[HillOfANight]

Why does Carson continue to do well in general election polls? The man is a nut.

Roughly 20% of Republicans are dead-set on proving to the world that they're totally not racists and do in fact have black friends

He gets 18% of the black vote. His glossed over gaffes are going to become more scrutinized and he will lose steam.

[Maxwell]

Why does Carson continue to do well in general election polls? The man is a nut.

Roughly 20% of Republicans are dead-set on proving to the world that they're totally not racists and do in fact have black friends

I really don't think it's that simple - Carson is the wackiest guy on the stage, and about 20% of Republicans are that wacky. Maybe he actually appeals to them.

And once again, it looks like Fiorinamentum is... taking a halt thanks to coverage of her tenure at HP.

[Mr. Morden]

Why does Carson continue to do well in general election polls? The man is a nut.

Roughly 20% of Republicans are dead-set on proving to the world that they're totally not racists and do in fact have black friends

I don’t think that’s a complete explanation.  It’s not just that he’s a black guy with an R next to his name.  It’s that he’s a black guy who agrees with most Republicans on racial issues.

His shtick is that political correctness is just about the worst thing happening in the country.  He talks about the dangers of political correctness all the time.  He disparages Black Lives Matter and the like.  He’s a black man who’s comfortable with the idea that the chilling effect from accusations of racism against white people is a bigger problem in the country than white racism against black people.

A black man with those views is going to be popular with a sizeable chunk of the GOP.  Legitimately popular, not just “I’ll tell a pollster I’ll vote for him so people don’t think I’m racist”, but “I might actually vote for him.”

[mencken]

People are not attracted to Carson's actual political views. I doubt 20% of Republicans think energy autarchy should have been pursued rather than invading Afghanistan or that minimum wage should be brokered and permanently indexed to inflation. People like that Carson is the closest thing to a normal human being on that debate stage. You had eight politicians giving what seemed like focus-group tested answers with a very canned delivery, a woman who gave the same focus-group tested answers with much better oratory, the physical personification of id, and Carson acting pretty much the same way one of their friends would answer when casually discussing politics. While evangelicals probably do not really care one way or the other what his tax plan is, that fact that he bases it on tithing is probably also a plus. Combine those two elements, and I think Carson would be performing just as well even without the reverse racism element in play. If anything, Fiorina is the Cain of this cycle, a CEO type who gives answers with good delivery and little to no substance, with support mostly by virtue of tokenism.

[Bull Moose Base]

Agree with what Mr. Morden said. Also, though far more than 20% of the GOP believes crazy things and is racist, there are many Evangelical Christians who genuinely don't care about the color of your skin but in your willingness to say Darwin was an agent of Satan.

[Torie]

My view? These primary polls at this juncture are essentially worthless. Most folks are shopping around, and do not have enough information to really assess competency and so forth. This is one office where that matters to voters. It is not all about ideology. And that is Jeb's hope. His opposition will all prove themselves to not be ready for the job. Time will tell. On the Dem side, it's all about Hillary's viability in the General. Extraneous events that she cannot control, including if her deleted emails are published, and what they say, will have more to do with her fate than anything else.

[Maxwell]

People are not attracted to Carson's actual political views. I doubt 20% of Republicans think energy autarchy should have been pursued rather than invading Afghanistan or that minimum wage should be brokered and permanently indexed to inflation. People like that Carson is the closest thing to a normal human being on that debate stage. You had eight politicians giving what seemed like focus-group tested answers with a very canned delivery, a woman who gave the same focus-group tested answers with much better oratory, the physical personification of id, and Carson acting pretty much the same way one of their friends would answer when casually discussing politics. While evangelicals probably do not really care one way or the other what his tax plan is, that fact that he bases it on tithing is probably also a plus. Combine those two elements, and I think Carson would be performing just as well even without the reverse racism element in play. If anything, Fiorina is the Cain of this cycle, a CEO type who gives answers with good delivery and little to no substance, with support mostly by virtue of tokenism.

I like this analysis.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Why does Carson continue to do well in general election polls? The man is a nut.

Roughly 20% of Republicans are dead-set on proving to the world that they're totally not racists and do in fact have black friends

I don’t think that’s a complete explanation.  It’s not just that he’s a black guy with an R next to his name.  It’s that he’s a black guy who agrees with most Republicans on racial issues.

His shtick is that political correctness is just about the worst thing happening in the country.  He talks about the dangers of political correctness all the time.  He disparages Black Lives Matter and the like.  He’s a black man who’s comfortable with the idea that the chilling effect from accusations of racism against white people is a bigger problem in the country than white racism against black people.

A black man with those views is going to be popular with a sizeable chunk of the GOP.  Legitimately popular, not just “I’ll tell a pollster I’ll vote for him so people don’t think I’m racist”, but “I might actually vote for him.”

That's pretty far off from what Carson has had to say about racism:

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