2016 Anti-establishment Madness!! The Bern v The Donald v The Gary
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defe07
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« on: September 25, 2015, 06:10:59 PM »

Ok guys! What happens if the following scenario plays out??

On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders shocks the party and grabs an absolute majority of the delegates. I'll leave the VP to you guys.

On the Republican side, Donald Trump is able to squeak out a last primary win that puts him over the top and clinches the nomination. His VP will be in your hands too.

The beltway Republicans and beltway Democrats don't know what to do! Luckily enough, there's a viable third party ticket: the Libertarians. The Libertarians decide to run former Governor of New Mexico Gary Johnson as their Presidential candidate. The VP is also a toss-up, but since the other 2 parties have nominated anti-establishment Veeps that go with Trump and Bernie on 90% of the issues, let's assume Gary Johnson picks a former Congressman, U.S. Senator or Governor.

Would the beltway help the Libertarians to stop Bern and Donald? What would a map look like? Electoral vote and popular vote? Smiley
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2015, 11:04:43 PM »


239(DEM) - 229(REP) - 70(LIB)
Bernie Sanders/Sherrod Brown
Donald Trump/Joni Ernst
Gary Johnson/Mike Gravel
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2015, 06:55:22 AM »
« Edited: October 02, 2015, 04:09:25 PM by low-energy loser evergreen »

let's not get silly here, johnson isn't going anywhere.



266/272
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2015, 01:50:55 PM »

let's not get silly here, johnson isn't going anywhere.



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You do have a point but in this scenario I'm thinking that establishment Republicans and Democrats, considering the 2 major party options, along with the billionaires, would see Gary Johnson as the only one who could better represent their interests. Let's assume that they heavily fund Gary's campaign but do it in stealth mode, you don't think that Gary at least might reach Perot '92 numbers thanks to help from the duopoly and their donors? Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2015, 12:42:19 AM »

let's not get silly here, johnson isn't going anywhere.



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You do have a point but in this scenario I'm thinking that establishment Republicans and Democrats, considering the 2 major party options, along with the billionaires, would see Gary Johnson as the only one who could better represent their interests. Let's assume that they heavily fund Gary's campaign but do it in stealth mode, you don't think that Gary at least might reach Perot '92 numbers thanks to help from the duopoly and their donors? Cheesy

I think that Trump's own money would be enough to make any defections by Wall Street obsolete.  The two-party system is a cruel mistress
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2015, 06:10:38 AM »

Johnson would act as a spoiler and let Bernie win in a landslide (he would have anyway, though).
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2015, 07:17:45 PM »



Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): 46%; 269 Electoral Votes
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX): 46%; 269 Electoral Votes
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Senator Rand Paul (L-KY): 7%; 0 Electoral Votes

The Johnson-Paul ticket runs strongly in the Mountain West, throwing Montana to Sanders and the election to Congress. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives elects Trump President. Republicans retain control of the Senate, but there are enough Republicans in that body with personal grudges against Cruz who are willing to choose Warren over him.

The subsequent Trump-Warren administration goes down in history books as one of the most unusual and fascinating periods in American history.
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