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« on: October 27, 2015, 10:19:43 PM »

Assuming instead of 3 countries in North America (Canada, Mexico, USA),  In 1776 North America formed into one country. Who would be the president/Vice President. This game works in that each poster picks in order from 1176 to present, one President and Vice President, for a 4 year term. Their are no term limits with President or Vice Presidents, your job is to name one President Vice President ticket, along with their political party (you may make up parties), the only stipulation is the President and Vice President can not be from the same country as they would have been in real life.

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 10:38:03 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2015, 10:40:00 PM by Senator Truman »

1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent] 1776-1780   (VP: James Livingston of Quebec)
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2015, 01:28:22 AM »

2) President Ben Franklin/Louisiana Governor Bernardo de Galvez, Continental Party, 1780-1784
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 12:10:24 PM »

PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent/Continental] 1776-1788

VICE PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. James Livingston of Quebec [Independent] 1776-1780   (Franklin)
2. Bernando de Galvez of Louisiana [Continental] 1780-1784 (Franklin)
3. Ethan Allen of Vermont1 [Continental] 1784-1788 (Franklin)

1 The Republic of Vermont was established as a defacto unrecognized state in 1777. After six years of independence, it was admitted to the North American Union as the 18th Province.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2015, 03:18:49 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2015, 03:24:48 PM by Cranberry, MP »

PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent/Continental] 1776-1788
2. Alured Clarke of Quebec2 [Federalist] 1788-1792

VICE PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. James Livingston of Quebec [Independent] 1776-1780   (Franklin)
2. Bernando de Galvez of Louisiana [Continental] 1780-1784 (Franklin)
3. Ethan Allen of Vermont1 [Continental] 1784-1788 (Franklin)
4. Charles Montagu of South Carolina [Federalist] 1788-1792 (Clarke)

1 The Republic of Vermont was established as a defacto unrecognized state in 1777. After six years of independence, it was admitted to the North American Union as the 18th Province.
2 The Federalist Party was formed in opposition to the Continental government, proving especially popular with former British loyalist forces, and advocating policies of a stronger union with the United Kingdom, and of a stronger self-determination of the individual provinces. Their strongholds were the Northern provinces as well as the Carolinas, while they were very unpopular in Mexico and the Mid-Atlantic.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2015, 03:47:11 PM »

PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent/Continental] 1776-1788
2. Alured Clarke of Quebec [Federalist2] 1788-1792
3. John Johnson of Upper Canada [Federalist] 1792-1796

VICE PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. James Livingston of Quebec [Independent] 1776-1780   (Franklin)
2. Bernando de Galvez of Louisiana [Continental] 1780-1784 (Franklin)
3. Ethan Allen of Vermont1 [Continental] 1784-1788 (Franklin)
4. Charles Montagu of South Carolina [Federalist] 1788-1792 (Clarke)
5. William T. Franklin of New Jersey [Federalist] 1792-1796 (Johnson)



1 The Republic of Vermont was established as a defacto unrecognized state in 1777. After six years of independence, it was admitted to the North American Union as the 18th Province.
2 The Federalist Party was formed in opposition to the Continental government, proving especially popular with former British loyalist forces, and advocating policies of a stronger union with the United Kingdom, and of a stronger self-determination of the individual provinces. Their strongholds were the Northern provinces as well as the Carolinas, while they were very unpopular in Mexico and the Mid-Atlantic.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 04:28:25 AM »
« Edited: October 29, 2015, 07:45:02 AM by Cranberry, MP »

PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent/Continental] 1776-1788
2. Alured Clarke of Quebec [Federalist2] 1788-1792
3. John Johnson of Upper Canada [Federalist] 1792-1796
4. Alexander Hamilton of New York3 [Continental] 1796-1800

VICE PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. James Livingston of Quebec [Independent] 1776-1780   (Franklin)
2. Bernando de Galvez of Louisiana [Continental] 1780-1784 (Franklin)
3. Ethan Allen of Vermont1 [Continental] 1784-1788 (Franklin)
4. Charles Montagu of South Carolina [Federalist] 1788-1792 (Clarke)
5. William T. Franklin of New Jersey [Federalist] 1792-1796 (Johnson)
6. Miguel Hidalgo of Mexico4 [Unidad] 1796-1800


1 The Republic of Vermont was established as a defacto unrecognized state in 1777. After six years of independence, it was admitted to the North American Union as the 22nd Province.
2 The Federalist Party was formed in opposition to the Continental government, proving especially popular with former British loyalist forces, and advocating policies of a stronger union with the United Kingdom, and of a stronger self-determination of the individual provinces. Their strongholds were the Northern provinces as well as the Carolinas, while they were very unpopular in Mexico and the Mid-Atlantic.
3 Parties in opposition to the Federalist government formed a unity ticket between Alexander Hamilton, leader of the predominantly Anglophone Continental Party, and Padre Miguel Hidalgo, of the Catholic, Spanish and French Unidad Party.
4 The former territories of the Spanish crown were admitted as five provinces, as well as a two union territories in the north-west: Louisiana from the Mississippi to the Sabine River, Nuevo León from the Sabine River to the Pánuco River, California on the Pacific Coast from the Sonora River up until the Santa Clara River, Mexico to the south of Pánuco and Sonora Rivers; and Yucatan on the eponymous peninsula. The two union territories, Nuevo Mexico and Nueva Louisiana, were divided at the continental watershed.   
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 11:59:17 AM »

PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent/Continental] 1776-1788
2. Alured Clarke of Quebec [Federalist] 1788-17922
3. John Johnson of Upper Canada [Federalist] 1792-1796
4. Alexander Hamilton of New York [Continental/Whig] 1796-18043 5

VICE PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. James Livingston of Quebec [Independent] 1776-1780   (Franklin)
2. Bernando de Galvez of Louisiana [Continental] 1780-1784 (Franklin)
3. Ethan Allen of Vermont [Continental] 1784-1788 (Franklin)1
4. Charles Montagu of South Carolina [Federalist] 1788-1792 (Clarke)
5. William T. Franklin of New Jersey [Federalist] 1792-1796 (Johnson)
6. Miguel Hidalgo of Mexico [Unidad/Whig] 1796-1804 (Hamilton)4

1 The Republic of Vermont was established as a defacto unrecognized state in 1777. After six years of independence, it was admitted to the North American Union as the 22nd Province.
2 The Federalist Party was formed in opposition to the Continental government, proving especially popular with former British loyalist forces, and advocating policies of a stronger union with the United Kingdom, and of a stronger self-determination of the individual provinces. Their strongholds were the Northern provinces as well as the Carolinas, while they were very unpopular in Mexico and the Mid-Atlantic.
3 Parties in opposition to the Federalist government formed a unity ticket between Alexander Hamilton, leader of the predominantly Anglophone Continental Party, and Padre Miguel Hidalgo, of the Catholic, Spanish and French Unidad Party.
4 The former territories of the Spanish crown were admitted as five provinces, as well as a two union territories in the north-west: Louisiana from the Mississippi to the Sabine River, Nuevo León from the Sabine River to the Pánuco River, California on the Pacific Coast from the Sonora River up until the Santa Clara River, Mexico to the south of Pánuco and Sonora Rivers; and Yucatan on the eponymous peninsula. The two union territories, Nuevo Mexico and Nueva Louisiana, were divided at the continental watershed.
5 Hamilton's successful election to the presidency in 1800 was accompanied by large victories for the Continental-Unidad in the 1800 and 1803 Congressional elections (under the Plan of Union adopted in 1776, delegates to the Continental Congress are elected every third year). Convinced that continued collaboration was in the best interests of both factions, the two parties united to form the Whig Party in advance of the 1804 election. Named after the Whigs who had toppled James II during the "Glorious Revolution" of 1689, the new party was founded upon three main planks: belief in Congressional supremacy, both in respect to the presidency and the provinces; support for fair trade with all European nations rather than Britain exclusively, and the defense of religious freedom (a priority for Catholics in Canada and the Southeast).
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 04:17:36 PM »

PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent/Continental] 1776-1788
2. Alured Clarke of Quebec [Federalist] 1788-17922
3. John Johnson of Upper Canada [Federalist] 1792-1796
4. Alexander Hamilton of New York [Continental/Whig] 1796-18043 5
5. Miguel Hidalgo of Mexico [Whig] 1804-1808

VICE PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. James Livingston of Quebec [Independent] 1776-1780   (Franklin)
2. Bernando de Galvez of Louisiana [Continental] 1780-1784 (Franklin)
3. Ethan Allen of Vermont [Continental] 1784-1788 (Franklin)1
4. Charles Montagu of South Carolina [Federalist] 1788-1792 (Clarke)
5. William T. Franklin of New Jersey [Federalist] 1792-1796 (Johnson)
6. Miguel Hidalgo of Mexico [Unidad/Whig] 1796-1804 (Hamilton)4
7. George Prévost of Acadia [Whig] 1804-1808 (Hidalgo)6

1 The Republic of Vermont was established as a defacto unrecognized state in 1777. After six years of independence, it was admitted to the North American Union as the 22nd Province.
2 The Federalist Party was formed in opposition to the Continental government, proving especially popular with former British loyalist forces, and advocating policies of a stronger union with the United Kingdom, and of a stronger self-determination of the individual provinces. Their strongholds were the Northern provinces as well as the Carolinas, while they were very unpopular in Mexico and the Mid-Atlantic.
3 Parties in opposition to the Federalist government formed a unity ticket between Alexander Hamilton, leader of the predominantly Anglophone Continental Party, and Padre Miguel Hidalgo, of the Catholic, Spanish and French Unidad Party.
4 The former territories of the Spanish crown were admitted as five provinces, as well as a two union territories in the north-west: Louisiana from the Mississippi to the Sabine River, Nuevo León from the Sabine River to the Pánuco River, California on the Pacific Coast from the Sonora River up until the Santa Clara River, Mexico to the south of Pánuco and Sonora Rivers; and Yucatan on the eponymous peninsula. The two union territories, Nuevo Mexico and Nueva Louisiana, were divided at the continental watershed.
5 Hamilton's successful election to the presidency in 1800 was accompanied by large victories for the Continental-Unidad in the 1800 and 1803 Congressional elections (under the Plan of Union adopted in 1776, delegates to the Continental Congress are elected every third year). Convinced that continued collaboration was in the best interests of both factions, the two parties united to form the Whig Party in advance of the 1804 election. Named after the Whigs who had toppled James II during the "Glorious Revolution" of 1689, the new party was founded upon three main planks: belief in Congressional supremacy, both in respect to the presidency and the provinces; support for fair trade with all European nations rather than Britain exclusively, and the defense of religious freedom (a priority for Catholics in Canada and the Southeast).
6 The Canadian territories were originally admitted as three provinces: Upper Canada in the west (this would later be changed to Niagara in a plebiscite in 1806), Quebec in the centre, and Acadia in the east, making up the former colonies of New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2015, 05:59:49 PM »

PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent/Continental] 1776-1788
2. Alured Clarke of Quebec [Federalist] 1788-17922
3. John Johnson of Upper Canada [Federalist] 1792-1796
4. Alexander Hamilton of New York [Continental/Whig] 1796-18043 5
5. Miguel Hidalgo of Mexico [Whig] 1804-1812

VICE PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. James Livingston of Quebec [Independent] 1776-1780   (Franklin)
2. Bernando de Galvez of Louisiana [Continental] 1780-1784 (Franklin)
3. Ethan Allen of Vermont [Continental] 1784-1788 (Franklin)1
4. Charles Montagu of South Carolina [Federalist] 1788-1792 (Clarke)
5. William T. Franklin of New Jersey [Federalist] 1792-1796 (Johnson)
6. Miguel Hidalgo of Mexico [Unidad/Whig] 1796-1804 (Hamilton)4
7. George Prévost of Acadia [Whig] 1804-1808 (Hidalgo)6
8. John Q. Adams of Massachusetts [Whig] 1808-1812 (Hidalgo)

1 The Republic of Vermont was established as a defacto unrecognized state in 1777. After six years of independence, it was admitted to the North American Union as the 22nd Province.
2 The Federalist Party was formed in opposition to the Continental government, proving especially popular with former British loyalist forces, and advocating policies of a stronger union with the United Kingdom, and of a stronger self-determination of the individual provinces. Their strongholds were the Northern provinces as well as the Carolinas, while they were very unpopular in Mexico and the Mid-Atlantic.
3 Parties in opposition to the Federalist government formed a unity ticket between Alexander Hamilton, leader of the predominantly Anglophone Continental Party, and Padre Miguel Hidalgo, of the Catholic, Spanish and French Unidad Party.
4 The former territories of the Spanish crown were admitted as five provinces, as well as a two union territories in the north-west: Louisiana from the Mississippi to the Sabine River, Nuevo León from the Sabine River to the Pánuco River, California on the Pacific Coast from the Sonora River up until the Santa Clara River, Mexico to the south of Pánuco and Sonora Rivers; and Yucatan on the eponymous peninsula. The two union territories, Nuevo Mexico and Nueva Louisiana, were divided at the continental watershed.
5 Hamilton's successful election to the presidency in 1800 was accompanied by large victories for the Continental-Unidad in the 1800 and 1803 Congressional elections (under the Plan of Union adopted in 1776, delegates to the Continental Congress are elected every third year). Convinced that continued collaboration was in the best interests of both factions, the two parties united to form the Whig Party in advance of the 1804 election. Named after the Whigs who had toppled James II during the "Glorious Revolution" of 1689, the new party was founded upon three main planks: belief in Congressional supremacy, both in respect to the presidency and the provinces; support for fair trade with all European nations rather than Britain exclusively, and the defense of religious freedom (a priority for Catholics in Canada and the Southeast).
6 The Canadian territories were originally admitted as three provinces: Upper Canada in the west (this would later be changed to Niagara in a plebiscite in 1806), Quebec in the centre, and Acadia in the east, making up the former colonies of New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2015, 04:54:08 AM »

PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania [Independent/Continental] 1776-1788
2. Alured Clarke of Quebec [Federalist] 1788-17922
3. John Johnson of Upper Canada [Federalist] 1792-1796
4. Alexander Hamilton of New York [Continental/Whig] 1796-18043 5
5. Miguel Hidalgo of Mexico [Whig] 1804-1812
6. Aaron Burr of New York [Federalist] 1812-1816

VICE PRESIDENTS of NORTH AMERICA
1. James Livingston of Quebec [Independent] 1776-1780   (Franklin)
2. Bernando de Galvez of Louisiana [Continental] 1780-1784 (Franklin)
3. Ethan Allen of Vermont [Continental] 1784-1788 (Franklin)1
4. Charles Montagu of South Carolina [Federalist] 1788-1792 (Clarke)
5. William T. Franklin of New Jersey [Federalist] 1792-1796 (Johnson)
6. Miguel Hidalgo of Mexico [Unidad/Whig] 1796-1804 (Hamilton)4
7. George Prévost of Acadia [Whig] 1804-1808 (Hidalgo)6
8. John Q. Adams of Massachusetts [Whig] 1808-1812 (Hidalgo)
9. Samuel Smith of Niagara [Federalist] 1812-1816 (Burr)7

1 The Republic of Vermont was established as a defacto unrecognized state in 1777. After six years of independence, it was admitted to the North American Union as the 22nd Province.
2 The Federalist Party was formed in opposition to the Continental government, proving especially popular with former British loyalist forces, and advocating policies of a stronger union with the United Kingdom, and of a stronger self-determination of the individual provinces. Their strongholds were the Northern provinces as well as the Carolinas, while they were very unpopular in Mexico and the Mid-Atlantic.
3 Parties in opposition to the Federalist government formed a unity ticket between Alexander Hamilton, leader of the predominantly Anglophone Continental Party, and Padre Miguel Hidalgo, of the Catholic, Spanish and French Unidad Party.
4 The former territories of the Spanish crown were admitted as five provinces, as well as a two union territories in the north-west: Louisiana from the Mississippi to the Sabine River, Nuevo León from the Sabine River to the Pánuco River, California on the Pacific Coast from the Sonora River up until the Santa Clara River, Mexico to the south of Pánuco and Sonora Rivers; and Yucatan on the eponymous peninsula. The two union territories, Nuevo Mexico and Nueva Louisiana, were divided at the continental watershed.
5 Hamilton's successful election to the presidency in 1800 was accompanied by large victories for the Continental-Unidad in the 1800 and 1803 Congressional elections (under the Plan of Union adopted in 1776, delegates to the Continental Congress are elected every third year). Convinced that continued collaboration was in the best interests of both factions, the two parties united to form the Whig Party in advance of the 1804 election. Named after the Whigs who had toppled James II during the "Glorious Revolution" of 1689, the new party was founded upon three main planks: belief in Congressional supremacy, both in respect to the presidency and the provinces; support for fair trade with all European nations rather than Britain exclusively, and the defense of religious freedom (a priority for Catholics in Canada and the Southeast).
6 The Canadian territories were originally admitted as three provinces: Upper Canada in the west (this would later be changed to Niagara in a plebiscite in 1806), Quebec in the centre, and Acadia in the east, making up the former colonies of New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia.
7 The Burr/Smith ticket was elected narrowly on a platform of granting provinical status to many frontier regions, enabling a predominantly federalist constituency to vote in Congressional and Presidential elections. Striking a deal with Whig-controlled Congress, they admitted the five provinces of Erie (OTL North Ohio and Southeast Michigan), Miami (OTL South Ohio and North Kentucky), Cumberland (OTL South Kentucky and North Tennessee), Ohio (OTL Southwest Ohio, South Indiana, West Kentucky) and Illinois (OTL South Illinois and East Missouri); but reserved large swaths in the south, from North Georgia along the Tennessee to the Mississippi, as Indian territory of the "five civilized tribes" and prohibited White settlement in this area.
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