House Leadership Megathread: it's House of Cards but without the monologues

[King]

We had no government shutdowns, debt ceiling crises, credit downgrades, and general chaos under Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. And both President Bush a Republican and President Obama a Democrat were able to work with them on passing legislation.

It was objectively better. I'm going to call your "Independent" moniker to the carpet. If you don't believe Pelosi/Reid aren't objectively better for government stability, switch to R-MN right now

I'm not a republican. I support ObamaCare, immigration reform with citizenship, and so on. But I won't support any more of this bouncing between two sets of polarizing leaders either. Let's hold out until commonsense politicians like Kyrsten Sinema and Lisa Murkowski are elected to leadership positions.

lol then what on earth do you have against Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi? They're for all those things plus you can sleep easy knowing judicial seats won't sit vacant for years and our government won't default on its debt for no reason.

[Del Tachi]

A "caretaker" is no solution. This isn't preschool. GOP caucus would be better served resigning all their seats than admit they need a caretaker.

Seriously Wufric, regardless of the issues, how could you possibly trust these people with control of the nation? They can't work with themselves much less opposition, much less another nation. A Republican President would not be effective with this current atmosphere of Republican Congress.

In fact, I'd say a President Kasich for example would be far more likely to be impeached by a Republican Congress than a Democratic one.

Imagine what would happen if a Republican President of the United States actually resigned due to a 30-something-sized House GOP "Liberty" caucus effectively holding him and his party hostage.

Talk about theatrics, and, unfortunately, too much of a real possibility. 

[Ebsy]

lol then what on earth do you have against Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi? They're for all those things plus you can sleep easy knowing judicial seats won't sit vacant for years and our government won't default on its debt for no reason.

He's a gutless Republican hack hiding behind his "independent" moniker.

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

We had no government shutdowns, debt ceiling crises, credit downgrades, and general chaos under Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. And both President Bush a Republican and President Obama a Democrat were able to work with them on passing legislation.

It was objectively better. I'm going to call your "Independent" moniker to the carpet. If you don't believe Pelosi/Reid aren't objectively better for government stability, switch to R-MN right now

I'm not a republican. I support ObamaCare, immigration reform with citizenship, and so on. But I won't support any more of this bouncing between two sets of polarizing leaders either. Let's hold out until commonsense politicians like Kyrsten Sinema and Lisa Murkowski are elected to leadership positions.

lol then what on earth do you have against Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi? They're for all those things plus you can sleep easy knowing judicial seats won't sit vacant for years and our government won't default on its debt for no reason.

I hate partisans. Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer FTR are some of the worst partisans in all of congress.

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Why is loyalty to one's party such a bad trait?

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

Why is loyalty to one's party such a bad trait?

A good politician makes some concessions to the other side for the purpose of governing. Otherwise, nothing gets done unless one party has a house majority, a senate supermajority, and the presidency all at once, which almost never happens.

[Ebsy]

Why is loyalty to one's party such a bad trait?

A good politician makes some concessions to the other side for the purpose of governing. Otherwise, nothing gets done unless one party has a house majority, a senate supermajority, and the presidency all at once, which almost never happens.

I can't believe you right now. Ridiculous.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Boehner un-resigning is a PR nightmare. They need to elect somebody else.

King for Speaker!

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Why is loyalty to one's party such a bad trait?

A good politician makes some concessions to the other side for the purpose of governing. Otherwise, nothing gets done unless one party has a house majority, a senate supermajority, and the presidency all at once, which almost never happens.

Nearly every major bill Speaker Pelosi passed contained significant concessions to the GOP. But it didn't matter to the Republican Caucus because they were more intent on stifling the current President than doing their jobs and governing. As King has rightly stated, this party is not serious about governing.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Wulfric might as well change his username to David Broder's Ghost.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Random anecdote (as always with such things, take it with a grain of salt): A friend of mine who is a really right-wing evangelical SoCon (he wanted a Mike Huckabee/Tom Coburn ticket in 2008, a Rick Santorum/Ron Johnson ticket in 2012, and initially wanted a Ben Carson/Pat Toomey this time around until the good doctor jumped aboard the crazy train in that Meet the Press interview), said he is going to write-in for the Presidential race (regardless of the Republican nominee), as well as vote for Strickland and whatever sacrificial lamb gets nominated to run against Tiberi due to precisely what King was talking about: even putting all ideological considerations aside, with this latest mess national Republicans have proven once again proven themselves objectively incapable of governing. 

[King]

We had no government shutdowns, debt ceiling crises, credit downgrades, and general chaos under Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. And both President Bush a Republican and President Obama a Democrat were able to work with them on passing legislation.

It was objectively better. I'm going to call your "Independent" moniker to the carpet. If you don't believe Pelosi/Reid aren't objectively better for government stability, switch to R-MN right now

I'm not a republican. I support ObamaCare, immigration reform with citizenship, and so on. But I won't support any more of this bouncing between two sets of polarizing leaders either. Let's hold out until commonsense politicians like Kyrsten Sinema and Lisa Murkowski are elected to leadership positions.

lol then what on earth do you have against Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi? They're for all those things plus you can sleep easy knowing judicial seats won't sit vacant for years and our government won't default on its debt for no reason.

I hate partisans. Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer FTR are some of the worst partisans in all of congress.

But are they any less partisan than the GOP leadership? And they're 1,000,000x more competent at the simple tasks of confirming appointments in a timely manner, scheduling votes, and keeping the government from shutting down.

Your position makes no sense.

[Mehmentum]

Sabato's Crystal Ball wrote a piece on the 'Republican Doomsday Scenario' in the House.

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[All Along The Watchtower]

Krugman on Paul Ryan:

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/flimflam-fever/?_r=0

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/rep-issa-im-considering-running-for-house-speaker.html

Also, lunch break is about to end, so no time to get a link atm, but apparently the Freedom Caucus won't back Paul Ryan if he runs for Speaker.

[Ebsy]

Issa would be just the kind of snake Republicans deserve.

[Storebought]

Might as well post it here since I reside () in one of the mentioned districts:

U.S. Reps. Mike Conaway, R-Midland, and Bill Flores, R-Bryan, are considering bids for the gavel, in light of U.S. House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s withdrawal from the speaker’s race on Thursday.

Texas Tribune

[King]

Paul Ryan doesn't like freedom enough, I agree.

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politics/house-speaker-race-paul-ryan/index.html

Ryan reconsidering!

[Skye]

Even Romney called him. It's amazing what pressure does.

[Bigby]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politics/house-speaker-race-paul-ryan/index.html

Ryan reconsidering!

Looks like he may be Speaker whether he wants to be or not.

[King]

He has to know his district isn't safe enough to take a job this unpopular. I'm guessing that's why he doesn't want it.

[Mehmentum]

If the Freedom Caucus is refusing to back Ryan, doesn't that negate the whole point of him running in the first place?  If I were a Republican, I would be absolutely furious with these people.

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"Reconsidering?"

He's basically in now. And that means that he's basically Speaker.

[Bacon King]

If the Freedom Caucus is refusing to back Ryan, doesn't that negate the whole point of him running in the first place?  If I were a Republican, I would be absolutely furious with these people.

I believe jdb is confused - his link doesn't say the Freedom Caucus is refusing to back Ryan (and indeed they haven't said that at all)