CNBC sets rules for next GOP debate: 3% floor for main debate, 1% for kids table

[Oakvale]

Why even bother with the kiddie debate? Kick those losers out.

Set the criteria for the proper debate at 5% minimum. No CLOWNS on stage.

But...but Atlas would be sad that their champion Kasich didn't make it in!

Hopefully the next debate ramps up the barrier and iJeb! is consigned to kiddie debate.

[Lyin' Steve]

Entry should be set at 15%
Just let Trump smack Carson again and again and again for three hours

[Blue3]

I don't understand this. Why not make the kiddie table bigger, and have a higher percentage necessary for the main debate?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I don't understand this. Why not make the kiddie table bigger, and have a higher percentage necessary for the main debate?

Yeah, they should set it at 3.5%, which would put Paul and Huckabee at the kids' table. Hopefully Graham gets 1% in a poll before the window ends on the 21st, which would make it 4 candidates instead of three. With it being so small, they should just let Gilmore in too regardless of his polling, but whatever.

[The Mikado]

This new Fox News poll is eligible. Please factor into the new rankings. TIA.

[Likely Voter]

Update with new FOX poll (avg includes 6 total polls)

Looks like Paul is safe, and kiddie table still only has 3 people with only one week left for new polls.

PRIMETIME DEBATE (need 2.5%)

Trump   23.83
Carson   18.67
Fiorina   9.50
Rubio   9.33
Bush   8.33
Cruz   7.17
Huckabee   3.50
Kasich   3.17
Christie   3.17
Paul   3.00

EARLY DEBATE (need 1% in one poll)
Santorum   0.67
Jindal   0.50
Pataki   0.33

NOT QUALIFIED
Graham   0.00
Gilmore   0.00

[Bacon King]

Is there any specific rule that's excluding the NBC/SurveyMonkey poll released on 9/18?

[Likely Voter]

Is there any specific rule that's excluding the NBC/SurveyMonkey poll released on 9/18?

The assumption is that NBC's Survey Monkey polls don't meet the "methodologically sound and recognized" criteria, but the live phone NBC/WSJ polls would meet it

[The Mikado]

Fox Business Debate scheduled for 11/10 Milwaukee. No criteria yet.

[The Other Castro]

I expect a new CNN poll sometime around next Monday.

[Bacon King]

Is there any specific rule that's excluding the NBC/SurveyMonkey poll released on 9/18?

The assumption is that NBC's Survey Monkey polls don't meet the "methodologically sound and recognized" criteria, but the live phone NBC/WSJ polls would meet it

The poll criteria for previous debates explicitly prohibited any polls that weren't live operator polls, but CNBC's does not. I would find it very questionable if CNBC accused their own parent company of releasing a poll that wasn't methodologically sound!

[defe07]

I was thinking about a two-tier debate: first debate, have the undercard debate with candidates polling less than 5% and even include those that got less than 1%. The winner of the undercard debate gets into the final debate, where not only the winner of the undercard debate is included but also all candidates polling 5% or higher.

[Likely Voter]

Is there any specific rule that's excluding the NBC/SurveyMonkey poll released on 9/18?

The assumption is that NBC's Survey Monkey polls don't meet the "methodologically sound and recognized" criteria, but the live phone NBC/WSJ polls would meet it

The poll criteria for previous debates explicitly prohibited any polls that weren't live operator polls, but CNBC's does not. I would find it very questionable if CNBC accused their own parent company of releasing a poll that wasn't methodologically sound!

Actually the first Fox GOP debate had the same kind of 'methodologically sound' criteria without mentioning live polling, but when they finally released a list of polls they used they were all live. The CNN debate also didn't specifically mention live, but their list of approved pollsters were all live phone. I dont think the Survey Monkey poll is going to make it in. There already is a NBC/WSJ in the average and it is possible they may have another one before the cutoff

[Likely Voter]

Politico is reporting that the CNBC debate will not have opening or closing statements and that some of the campaigns are pissed off.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/gop-rnc-cnbc-debate-call-214794

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Why even bother with the kiddie debate? Kick those losers out.

Set the criteria for the proper debate at 5% minimum. No CLOWNS on stage.

No clowns would mean an empty stage. They're all clowns this year - the least clownish are Rubio, Bush, and Kaisich, but those three are still clowns all the same

[FLgirl]

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So is this gonna be the story for the rest of the primary debate season? Let the Democrats be serious and issue focused and continue to try to egg the Republicans into fights? Nice. Thanks.

And the RNC needs to stop being accommodating to the loser campaigns. It's hurting everybody.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Politico is reporting that the CNBC debate will not have opening or closing statements and that some of the campaigns are pissed off.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/gop-rnc-cnbc-debate-call-214794

Good. The more time spent actually debating the issues, the better.

[The Other Castro]

Politico is reporting that the CNBC debate will not have opening or closing statements and that some of the campaigns are pissed off.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/gop-rnc-cnbc-debate-call-214794

Good. The more time spent actually debating the issues, the better.

Why start now?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Politico is reporting that the CNBC debate will not have opening or closing statements and that some of the campaigns are pissed off.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/gop-rnc-cnbc-debate-call-214794

Good. The more time spent actually debating the issues, the better.

Why start now?

Voters must realize Trump has little substance on many issues.

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

What's everybody's predictions on whether or not they think Kasich and Christie will make the main debate?

[The Other Castro]

What's everybody's predictions on whether or not they think Kasich and Christie will make the main debate?

It's basically impossible for them to not make it in at this point because of the way the polls are averaged.

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

What's everybody's predictions on whether or not they think Kasich and Christie will make the main debate?

It's basically impossible for them to not make it in at this point because of the way the polls are averaged.

That's a shame. The GOP needs to accept that Kasich/Christie/Paul/Huckabee aren't gonna be the nominees and shouldn't be in the main debate.

[Likely Voter]

What's everybody's predictions on whether or not they think Kasich and Christie will make the main debate?

There is almost no way that Kasich, Christie or Paul not make the debate. It would require something like 3 new polls out in the  next week and averaging 1% in all 3. The main CNBC debate lineup will be exactly the same as the last CNN debate (minus Walker of course). The only difference will be podium positions.

[Mr. Morden]

What's everybody's predictions on whether or not they think Kasich and Christie will make the main debate?

We only have a week left before the cutoff.  I doubt we'll be getting that many more national polls that they're counting between now and then.  Seems hard to imagine anyone in the top 10 now missing the threshold.

The only question left is whether Gilmore and/or Graham make it into the kiddie debate.  All they need is one poll in which they're lucky enough to reach 1%, and they're in.

[Likely Voter]

Trump and Carson campaigns are threatening to pull out of the debate and have sent a formal letter saying they will only participate if they are guaranteed the debate lasts no longer than 2 hours and the candidates are allowed opening and closing statements.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/285226920/Trump-and-Carson-threaten-to-opt-out-of-CNBC-debate

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