50 years have passed since the coup against Sukarno

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And the ensuing mass murder that is now largely not talked about in the west, which led to the rise of Suharto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_killings_of_1965–66

[Antonio the Sixth]

The praise Suharto gets from certain Western circles is as disturbing (if not more) as Pinochet's.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Sukarno was pretty awful (he named a flower after Kim il-Sung) buy the later regime and transition was far worse. And then there's East Timor.

[warandwar]

Sukarno was pretty awful (he named a flower after Kim il-Sung) buy the later regime and transition was far worse. And then there's East Timor.

I think you need a better example than naming a flower after Kim in the 60s to call someone "pretty awful".

[Famous Mortimer]

In the 70s, standards of living were actually higher in North Korea than South Korea. The conventional wisdom was that Kim Ill-Sung was no worse than any other random Communist leader in an Eastern European country.

[Silent Hunter]

In the 70s, standards of living were actually higher in North Korea than South Korea. The conventional wisdom was that Kim Ill-Sung was no worse than any other random Communist leader in an Eastern European country.

Wasn't that before SK's economic boom?

[politicus]

In the 70s, standards of living were actually higher in North Korea than South Korea. The conventional wisdom was that Kim Ill-Sung was no worse than any other random Communist leader in an Eastern European country.

Wasn't that before SK's economic boom?

Yes, the NK/SK development has been discussed before with some interesting graphs, so you could do a search, if you are interested.