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« on: October 02, 2015, 04:31:07 PM »

And now it's goodbye to another long term Obama cabinet member: Education Sec Arne Duncan. He will probably be best remembered for the Race to the Top, a program that has had some success but has with significant opposition from left and right, alike.
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2015, 04:39:02 PM »

Praise Jesus!!!!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2015, 04:39:43 PM »

I was wondering when somebody would post this thread...


Why do you care? It's not like a Republican will take his place.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2015, 04:42:23 PM »

I was wondering when somebody would post this thread...


Why do you care? It's not like a Republican will take his place.
I know but still Duncan was pretty bad.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2015, 04:43:49 PM »

Why now? There's still a year and a half left.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2015, 04:45:03 PM »

I was wondering when somebody would post this thread...


Why do you care? It's not like a Republican will take his place.
I know but still Duncan was pretty bad.

Yeah, especially his decision to force high-schoolers to read Alinsky's memoirs.
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2015, 04:48:15 PM »

I was wondering when somebody would post this thread...


Why do you care? It's not like a Republican will take his place.
I know but still Duncan was pretty bad.

Yeah, especially his decision to force high-schoolers to read Alinsky's memoirs.

Isn't Rules for Radicals the scary book?

For the record, it's some pretty blah organizing tips. The kind of thing you might assume to a grad student in a Non-Profit Management masters' program.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2015, 05:05:14 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2015, 05:12:27 PM by Crab »

His replacement, incidentally, is John B. King Jr. a man with a somewhat controversial history as education Comissioner in NY. This won't be one of those cabinet replacements that brings radical changes (either left or right) to Obama's education policy, so don't worry (or resume worrying depending on your views). He's a former charter school owner (alarm bells for unions), a supporter of common core and other such standards and wins diversity points, being young and mixed race (Puerto Rican/black - or blurto rican, as tender would probably call it).
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2015, 05:16:35 PM »

I'm proud to have helped boo John King off the stage at my high school a few years back.
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2015, 06:18:31 PM »

FTR I think every American involved in politics should read Alinsky's book. Hell, at AFP we had a monthly class open to the public on his methods. We use them quite effectively, I think. Anyway, I barely remembered Arne Duncan existed. He wasn't awful but I fail to see anything that he has accomplished.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2015, 08:02:40 PM »

Do cabinet ministers tend to stick around if the following president is of the same party; or is Clinton likely to start with a fresh slate?
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2015, 09:05:37 PM »

Do cabinet ministers tend to stick around if the following president is of the same party; or is Clinton likely to start with a fresh slate?
Fresh new slate they rarely stay with the next president.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2015, 04:03:15 PM »

Good. Though I wish he wasn't being replaced by another charter school, anti-Union hack.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2015, 06:10:03 PM »

Did a bit of research. During the Reagan to Bush Sr. handover there were three continuity figures - the AG, and the Secs. for Education and Treasury. Most of Ford's inherited cabinet ministers stepped down during 75, except Kissinger and Treasury Sec William Simon. LBJ kept most of the Kennedy figures around, due to the circumstances of him assuming the presidency; but Truman seemed to replace his with his own cronies almost immediately by '46, with only Forrestal (of the suspicious death) hanging on for particularly long. Hoover kept Kellogg as SoS, And the Treasury and Labor Secs. And most of Harding's furniture was dropped by Coolidge in about two years.

Man, you're right. There are only two real circumstances in the modern party system where under "normal circumstances" power was transitioned between two individuals of the party: Coolidge to Hoover and Reagan to Bush. Sadly I think King will stay on - he will still be green enough to want a longer crack at the job. As for the others? Well, history would suggest only two or three.

I think Kerry would be dropped, as HRC seems to be contrasting her policy towards the ME with Obama's. Maybe she'll keep, say, Lew, lynch and King?
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2015, 06:27:26 AM »

I'm proud to have helped boo John King off the stage at my high school a few years back.
You're proud to be part of Heckler's Veto?  <shakes head>

Good. Though I wish he wasn't being replaced by another charter school, anti-Union hack.
The guy that killed DC's voucher system and tried to kill Louisiana's charter system (90% black students by the way)?
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2015, 08:56:31 AM »

I like Duncan, he's done a good job.  Hopefully his successor keeps it up
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2015, 12:05:25 PM »

Obama's golf foursome has an opening this Sunday!
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2015, 03:36:50 PM »

King is awful, and shouldn't be confirmed.
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