Will NoVa Ever Become Its Own State?
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« on: October 04, 2015, 01:09:57 AM »

I brought this up in a scenario I made. It has its own culture, and I'm sure it and the southern part of the south would enjoy it for different reasons. Like Puerto Rico, I personally feel that this is inevitable.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2015, 02:42:48 AM »

The "southern part of the south", which I think you mean Southern Virginia, is also become more Mid-Atlantic and less Southern as time goes on. There aren't really any true "Southern" parts of Virginia anymore.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2015, 07:05:16 AM »

If NoVa really wanted to secede from VA maybe it could combine with DC to solve its lingering statehood question. Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William along with the enclosed independent cities is a compact region. Perhaps Montgomery and Prince George's from MD would want to join. Then the federal district could be shrunk to the Capitol, White House, and Pentagon along with the Mall, Arlington Cemetery and other adjacent buildings.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2015, 09:12:34 AM »

Adding the western part of Virginia to West Virginia would make more sense, namely the current VA-6 and VA-9 districts.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2015, 09:30:56 AM »

If NoVa really wanted to secede from VA maybe it could combine with DC to solve its lingering statehood question. Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William along with the enclosed independent cities is a compact region. Perhaps Montgomery and Prince George's from MD would want to join. Then the federal district could be shrunk to the Capitol, White House, and Pentagon along with the Mall, Arlington Cemetery and other adjacent buildings.

Virginia would have had a recount in 2008.  Smiley


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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2015, 01:24:55 PM »

Will it ever tho?
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2015, 03:21:47 PM »

This argument can be made for a number of regions. It is unlikely that any of them will ever happen, but fun to think about.

For example:



I believe Obama would have won the blue area on that map in 2008. Probably not ever going to happen, but the animosity between the Chicago area and the rest of the state is present and the demographic and political differences are there as well.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2015, 04:20:22 PM »

I brought this up in a scenario I made. It has its own culture, and I'm sure it and the southern part of the south would enjoy it for different reasons. Like Puerto Rico, I personally feel that this is inevitable.
When West Virginia became a state, there were supposed to be plebiscites for counties along the border to become part of West Virginia. This included areas opposite D.C. Perhaps the laws are still operative.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2015, 10:06:55 AM »

The "southern part of the south", which I think you mean Southern Virginia, is also become more Mid-Atlantic and less Southern as time goes on. There aren't really any true "Southern" parts of Virginia anymore.

As someone with an aunt who lives in VA, I'm going to have to disagree with that.

As for the OP, absolutely not.  Cook County is never leaving Illinois, NYC is never leaving New York, etc.  Ever.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2015, 10:15:49 AM »

The "southern part of the south", which I think you mean Southern Virginia, is also become more Mid-Atlantic and less Southern as time goes on. There aren't really any true "Southern" parts of Virginia anymore.

Not really true. Once you get out of the core NOVA counties, you start seeing Confederate Flags and hearing Southern Accents. Of course, as NOVA continues to grow, it's demographic dominance of the state will become increasingly cemented. Maryland still has regions that are culturally Southern, though few would consider it a Southern state nowadays.
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2015, 06:26:56 PM »

The "southern part of the south", which I think you mean Southern Virginia, is also become more Mid-Atlantic and less Southern as time goes on. There aren't really any true "Southern" parts of Virginia anymore.

Not really true. Once you get out of the core NOVA counties, you start seeing Confederate Flags and hearing Southern Accents. Of course, as NOVA continues to grow, it's demographic dominance of the state will become increasingly cemented. Maryland still has regions that are culturally Southern, though few would consider it a Southern state nowadays.

They may still be there, but they're not as prevalent as they were.

It's certainly a big change from the 8 years since I've last been there.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2015, 06:55:15 PM »

Its not going to happen, and I don't think it should. Our politics is polarized enough without splitting one of the few competitive states we have into 2 safe states.
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