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« on: October 04, 2015, 03:11:46 AM »

Worthless peons wanted to see her without paying $2700?
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2015, 09:20:44 PM »

What do you expect from someone who feels entitled to the Presidency?

Entitled? Please. She's one of the most experienced and accomplished candidates running in this race. Take your loaded sexist language elsewhere please.

The F*k?

"Entitled" is a phrase (among others) that is attached to Clinton in a way that wouldn't be attached to other male candidates.

I guess you feel she is entitled to massive overuse of the sexist card, but this is ridiculous.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2015, 12:30:03 AM »

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Whatever, Jeb Bush is also an entitled piece of sh*t, this is just feminist dogma. Attacking Hillary = Sexism.

There is plenty to criticize Hillary Clinton on that is not sexist: her positions, the issues, her campaign (e.g. her handling of the email scandal), etc. The "entitled" attack is subtle sexism though, suggesting she is "entitled" because she was the wife of a former president, or because she is a woman, or because she "just acts that way."  She has earned her shot at the presidency: a proactive first lady of Arkansas and as FLOTUS, a two-time senator from New York, an accomplished tenure as Secretary of State, and her philanthropic work with the Clinton foundation total over 30 years in the public service; this dwarfs the accomplishments of virtually the rest of the field (if not everyone else).

Clinton has every right to call out sexist attacks against her (whether subtle or not so subtle); she's been on the receiving end of it for over two decades. She's been negatively branded as "ambitious" and "calculating" since the 90s, never mind that dozens of prominent male politicians in the same time period have been just as ambitious and just as politically expedient (hell, just look at Obama).

Maybe you all will argue that the "inevitability" argument is proof of her entitlement. Of course, to believe that, you have to ignore that it is a media fabrication that Clinton frequently downplayed, and is essentially an impossible bar to meet.

I won't challenge that Jeb is entitled though. He relied on the clout of the family name and ran to the private sector in between his bouts for office.

Entitled is sexist, but Jeb is also entitled? LOL, OK.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2015, 01:13:42 AM »

A man is confident. A woman is entitled. It's obviously sexist.

So it was OK to say that Bob Dole and Jeb Bush felt entitled to the nomination, but not Hillary? Ridiculous.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2015, 01:16:54 AM »

A man is confident. A woman is entitled. It's obviously sexist.

So it was OK to say that Bob Dole and Jeb Bush felt entitled to the nomination, but not Hillary? Ridiculous.

I've never heard anyone say that. Bob Dole had done a lot for the Republican Party though

You can find mentions on Google, although usually it was "his turn". Clearly a sexist term, since it can't refer to women.
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jfern
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2015, 01:30:44 AM »

A man is confident. A woman is entitled. It's obviously sexist.

So it was OK to say that Bob Dole and Jeb Bush felt entitled to the nomination, but not Hillary? Ridiculous.

I've never heard anyone say that. Bob Dole had done a lot for the Republican Party though

You can find mentions on Google, although usually it was "his turn". Clearly a sexist term, since it can't refer to women.

In the context of HRC's run for the presidency, yes. If she had served 1 term in the Senate and ran off to Wall Street and the private sector for a decade and expected to lead the field on name recognition, it would be a different story.

I don't even know what you're trying to say. "Entitled" or "his turn" has been used for countless other candidates. These cries of sexism are really ridiculous.
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jfern
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2015, 01:59:51 AM »

A man is confident. A woman is entitled. It's obviously sexist.

So it was OK to say that Bob Dole and Jeb Bush felt entitled to the nomination, but not Hillary? Ridiculous.

I've never heard anyone say that. Bob Dole had done a lot for the Republican Party though

You can find mentions on Google, although usually it was "his turn". Clearly a sexist term, since it can't refer to women.

In the context of HRC's run for the presidency, yes. If she had served 1 term in the Senate and ran off to Wall Street and the private sector for a decade and expected to lead the field on name recognition, it would be a different story.

I don't even know what you're trying to say. "Entitled" or "his turn" has been used for countless other candidates. These cries of sexism are really ridiculous.

It sounds like you're having a hard time understanding this:

1. HRC is not and has not been acting like she is entitled to the nomination.
2. She has a 30+ year streak of philanthropy and public service to the American people (aka she is not running on being second in 2008).
3. She is still frequently branded as "entitled"  in spite of this. I believe this comes from sexist undertones.

Come on, it's the same as "his turn" for Bob Dole. Nothing sexist about it.
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