Biden Watch Megathread (decision this week?)

[VPH]

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/15/joe-biden-teases-reporters-interested-in-his-plans/

[mencken]

Is it not obvious by this point that Biden is holding out for the inevitable Torricelli moment?

[Mr. Morden]

http://politicalwire.com/2015/10/15/biden-nears-a-decision/

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[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

http://politicalwire.com/2015/10/15/biden-nears-a-decision/

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More 'sources' ... ugh - seriously Joe either, you know or get off the pot.

[mencken]

One alternate theory (although even I admit this is relatively implausible):

The elephant in the room is that the Clintons will go scorched earth against Biden as soon as he enters the race, thus it is his best interest to enter the race as soon before the race gears up as possible. A December entry allows him to stay on the overwhelming majority of ballots (except for New Hampshire, Florida, and a few Deep Southern primaries that Hillary will win in a landslide anyway), plus he would dominate the news cycle just before the Christmas lull. He would only be a walking target for the month of January, which is a risk he will have to take.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

My theory is that the other campaigns are trying to smoke Joe out...

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One alternate theory (although even I admit this is relatively implausible):

The elephant in the room is that the Clintons will go scorched earth against Biden as soon as he enters the race, thus it is his best interest to enter the race as soon before the race gears up as possible. A December entry allows him to stay on the overwhelming majority of ballots (except for New Hampshire, Florida, and a few Deep Southern primaries that Hillary will win in a landslide anyway), plus he would dominate the news cycle just before the Christmas lull. He would only be a walking target for the month of January, which is a risk he will have to take.

He's a pathetic coward for doing so.  Bernie has taken massive amounts of attacks from the Hillary campaign.

[Cory]

He's a pathetic coward for doing so.  Bernie has taken massive amounts of attacks from the Hillary campaign.

Sh*t Sanders supporters say.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

He's a pathetic coward for doing so.  Bernie has taken massive amounts of attacks from the Hillary campaign.

Sh*t Sanders supporters say.

Sandersistas can be quite fierce sometimes.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

He's a pathetic coward for doing so.  Bernie has taken massive amounts of attacks from the Hillary campaign.

Sh*t Sanders supporters say.

Sandersistas can be quite fierce sometimes.

What?!? How dare you take the name of our Lord and Saviour Bernie Sanders PBUH in vain?!? He is the most radical person ever to run for president in the history of the president?!?!?!?! And he is a socialist who is very different on many issues from other democrats?!?!?!?!?!?,!??? As you can clearly see from this reddit poll, one billion percent of America is voting for Snaders?!? Unless the mainstream mediA who HATE sandrsiusg DESTROY his MESSAGE.

[Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon]

He's a pathetic coward for doing so.  Bernie has taken massive amounts of attacks from the Hillary campaign.

Sh*t Sanders supporters say.

Sandersistas can be quite fierce sometimes.

What?!? How dare you take the name of our Lord and Saviour Bernie Sanders PBUH in vain?!? He is the most radical person ever to run for president in the history of the president?!?!?!?! And he is a socialist who is very different on many issues from other democrats?!?!?!?!?!?,!??? As you can clearly see from this reddit poll, one billion percent of America is voting for Snaders?!? Unless the mainstream mediA who HATE sandrsiusg DESTROY his MESSAGE.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Meanwhile, in real life:

South Carolina Primary Results

Hillary: 76%
Sanders: 20%

[Skye]

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/15/politics/joe-biden-family-2016-election-decision/

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[Progressive]

Do you think Biden's announcement will be in a video like Hillary? Where do you think he could have his big kickoff rally?

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He's a pathetic coward for doing so.  Bernie has taken massive amounts of attacks from the Hillary campaign.

Sh*t Sanders supporters say.

Sandersistas can be quite fierce sometimes.

What?!? How dare you take the name of our Lord and Saviour Bernie Sanders PBUH in vain?!? He is the most radical person ever to run for president in the history of the president?!?!?!?! And he is a socialist who is very different on many issues from other democrats?!?!?!?!?!?,!??? As you can clearly see from this reddit poll, one billion percent of America is voting for Snaders?!? Unless the mainstream mediA who HATE sandrsiusg DESTROY his MESSAGE.

Obama was the Messiah.

[Angel of Death]

So it's happening?

[Progressive]

Oh and for what it's worth, Obama said:

"I think that the vice president, like every other candidate, makes their own decisions about these issues and they will have to figure out whether it makes sense for them."

I'm not big on conspiracies so maybe this was just an inadvertently incorrect statement, but, I think the thinking at this point is that he will launch into an actual campaign next week. But who knows. I find this whole thing to be bizarre. 

[Col. Roosevelt]

[TarHeelDem]

Oh and for what it's worth, Obama said:

"I think that the vice president, like every other candidate, makes their own decisions about these issues and they will have to figure out whether it makes sense for them."

I'm not big on conspiracies so maybe this was just an inadvertently incorrect statement, but, I think the thinking at this point is that he will launch into an actual campaign next week. But who knows. I find this whole thing to be bizarre.

When did President Obama say this? I imagine at their meeting early this week Biden probably told him what will soon pass. Also agree that this situation is very bizarre. Nevertheless, expecting an announcement of a candidacy in the next week, possibly the next few days.

[Likely Voter]

Latest leak from Bidenworld seems to be a response of all the "its too late" from all the pundits

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/17/politics/joe-biden-president-2016-firefighters/index.html

Biden's indecision has now become the source for parody, with this from the New Yorker:

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http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/biden-to-decide-on-2016-bid-by-early-2017

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Is it already latest anyone has waited to make a decision since Mario Cuomo decided not to run on the deadline for filing in NH, Dec. 20 1991?

[Mr. Morden]

Is it already latest anyone has waited to make a decision since Mario Cuomo decided not to run on the deadline for filing in NH, Dec. 20 1991?

Depends on how you count it.  Some prospective candidates float a trial balloon on running, but then never actually make an announcement.  I don't think Palin has announced her decision yet, has she?  She said early this year that she might run, but then just stopped talking about it, without actually making an announcement.

[Likely Voter]

One more tea leaf from NY Mag...

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The Jefferson Jackson Dinner is put on by the Iowa Democratic Party. All the candidates will be there.  As noted by USA Today, it is important...

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Skipping this event will be like skipping the debate, another major lost opportunity for Biden and another signal that he isn't going to get in. The next milestones are upcoming filing deadlines, as noted by NYT

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And of course there is the next Democratic debate on November 14th

[Crumpets]

Is it already latest anyone has waited to make a decision since Mario Cuomo decided not to run on the deadline for filing in NH, Dec. 20 1991?

Depends on how you count it.  Some prospective candidates float a trial balloon on running, but then never actually make an announcement.  I don't think Palin has announced her decision yet, has she?  She said early this year that she might run, but then just stopped talking about it, without actually making an announcement.

I think Palin basically said she wouldn't run when she endorsed Trump.

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Is it already latest anyone has waited to make a decision since Mario Cuomo decided not to run on the deadline for filing in NH, Dec. 20 1991?

Depends on how you count it.  Some prospective candidates float a trial balloon on running, but then never actually make an announcement.  I don't think Palin has announced her decision yet, has she?  She said early this year that she might run, but then just stopped talking about it, without actually making an announcement.

I think Palin basically said she wouldn't run when she endorsed Trump.

Yeah. So what's the latest anyone has waited since Cuomo? Biden himself is one of the latest, he announced he was't running on August 11 2003, but I'm sure there are some later.

[Mr. Morden]

Is it already latest anyone has waited to make a decision since Mario Cuomo decided not to run on the deadline for filing in NH, Dec. 20 1991?

Depends on how you count it.  Some prospective candidates float a trial balloon on running, but then never actually make an announcement.  I don't think Palin has announced her decision yet, has she?  She said early this year that she might run, but then just stopped talking about it, without actually making an announcement.

I think Palin basically said she wouldn't run when she endorsed Trump.

Did she ever actually endorse him?  I don't remember that.  I just remember her speaking glowingly of him, and saying that she'd serve in his Cabinet.  But has she ever said she's going to vote for him in the primary?