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« on: October 05, 2015, 04:57:46 PM »

Bernie Sanders' record on LGBT rights is more complicated than his campaign has admitted:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html


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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2015, 05:01:38 PM »

shillary camp leaking the "truth" on bernie

SHILLARY WILL PAY
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2015, 05:05:45 PM »

Still better than all the other Dems.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2015, 05:14:55 PM »


Biden and Clinton are electable, whereas Sanders is not. That alone makes them better than Sanders.

in b4 jfern barges in citing "BUT SANDERS IS DOING BETTER IN THESE POLLS (THAT HAVE NO STATISTICAL CORRELATION WITH THE GE THIS FAR OUT)!!!!"
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2015, 05:19:20 PM »

It's also worth noting that he owes his career to the NRA. He lost all of his statewide races badly until the NRA got angry at the Republican incumbent in the House and decided to #feelthebern and back Sanders. He's not as liberal or bold as his supporters would like people to believe.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2015, 05:57:45 PM »


Biden and Clinton are electable, whereas Sanders is not. That alone makes them better than Sanders.

in b4 jfern barges in citing "BUT SANDERS IS DOING BETTER IN THESE POLLS (THAT HAVE NO STATISTICAL CORRELATION WITH THE GE THIS FAR OUT)!!!!"

OK, you are just a troll.



Anyways, I don't of Sanders ever saying he was against gay marriage. Many politicians were considered neither for nor against gay marriage, and I think he was for a long time. He definitely fully supported SSM in 2009, while Hillary was still a gay marriage opponent in early 2013.


It's also worth noting that he owes his career to the NRA. He lost all of his statewide races badly until the NRA got angry at the Republican incumbent in the House and decided to #feelthebern and back Sanders. He's not as liberal or bold as his supporters would like people to believe.

Sanders lost the open 1988 election by only 4 points, and 1990 was a midterm, where the President's party does worse, and he won the 1990 election by 16.5 points. The NRA didn't campaign for him, and I think it's clear that even had they endorsed the Republican incumbent, Sanders would have won, just by less than 16.5 points.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2015, 06:40:13 PM »
« Edited: October 05, 2015, 06:43:36 PM by Alex 🐲💠🌟 »

It's also worth noting that he owes his career to the NRA. He lost all of his statewide races badly until the NRA got angry at the Republican incumbent in the House and decided to #feelthebern and back Sanders. He's not as liberal or bold as his supporters would like people to believe.
The Democratic candidate (without much support from the party) did awful (3%) in 1990 (Bernie's first successful House race), while Peter Smith (R) did only slightly worse than in 1998
I'm quite sure that did a lot more for his victory that the NRA
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2015, 07:35:43 PM »

Ok, so basically the same as Hillary, and also about the same as Obama.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2015, 07:46:01 PM »

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/10/01/hillary-clinton-tried-to-block-gay-inclusive-passports-emails-reveal/
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2015, 07:55:40 PM »

The gays will vote for Hillary. They have a certain lifestyle that they have to maintain. They are smart enough to not mess with the system too much.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2015, 08:06:16 PM »

The gays will vote for Hillary. They have a certain lifestyle that they have to maintain. They are smart enough to not mess with the system too much.
Well this one is. Purple heart
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2015, 08:14:39 PM »

The gays will vote for Hillary. They have a certain lifestyle that they have to maintain. They are smart enough to not mess with the system too much.
Well this one is. Purple heart

You're 14. You can't vote. Your parents maintain your lifestyle. You are not the demographic I am speaking of.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2015, 08:16:32 PM »

Bernie Sanders' record on LGBT rights is more complicated than his campaign has admitted:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html

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Quarter century ago an old white guy wasn't demanding rights for guys who have sex with each other?!  B-b-b-b-ut that's impossible!

Here's a cell phone from back then...



Stuff changes.
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2015, 08:25:52 PM »


Biden and Clinton are electable, whereas Sanders is not. That alone makes them better than Sanders.

in b4 jfern barges in citing "BUT SANDERS IS DOING BETTER IN THESE POLLS (THAT HAVE NO STATISTICAL CORRELATION WITH THE GE THIS FAR OUT)!!!!"

Well, you being a Republican and all, why do you care? Wink
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2015, 08:37:20 PM »

Bette than most democrats and 90% republicans, shame on him though.
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2015, 08:50:26 PM »

The gays will vote for Hillary. They have a certain lifestyle that they have to maintain. They are smart enough to not mess with the system too much.
Well this one is. Purple heart

What is Hillary just another Judy Garland or Barbara Streisand for some gay men?
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2015, 10:55:03 AM »

Welcome to the modern day Democratic Party; no respect for the constitution and state's rights, no respect for the second amendment, now Bernie has to pander. But at least on most things he's genuine, unlike Clinton.
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2015, 11:00:16 AM »

Welcome to the modern day Democratic Party; no respect for the constitution and state's rights, no respect for the second amendment, now Bernie has to pander. But at least on most things he's genuine, unlike Clinton.

What about Ganja in Colorado?
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2015, 11:04:44 AM »

Welcome to the modern day Democratic Party; no respect for the constitution and state's rights, no respect for the second amendment, now Bernie has to pander. But at least on most things he's genuine, unlike Clinton.

What about Ganja in Colorado?

Colorado has a right to legalize it if they want, but the Democratic Party would rather take the approach that everything is federal.
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2015, 11:20:49 AM »

Welcome to the modern day Democratic Party; no respect for the constitution and state's rights, no respect for the second amendment, now Bernie has to pander. But at least on most things he's genuine, unlike Clinton.

What about Ganja in Colorado?

Colorado has a right to legalize it if they want, but the Democratic Party would rather take the approach that everything is federal.

except for opposing the federal marriage amendment?
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2015, 11:38:10 AM »

Colorado has a right to legalize it if they want, but the Democratic Party would rather take the approach that everything is federal.
except for opposing the federal marriage amendment?

Didn't they get that earlier this year?
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2015, 02:07:01 PM »

Except in the areas where they still do not,
Oh, and their constant support of anti-gay rights candidates and groups
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2015, 02:08:55 PM »

The gays will vote for Hillary. They have a certain lifestyle that they have to maintain. They are smart enough to not mess with the system too much.
Well this one is. Purple heart

You're 14. You can't vote. Your parents maintain your lifestyle. You are not the demographic I am speaking of.

By "vote", I'm pretty sure you were referring to Cris's monthly polls on the 2016 Election board. So yeah. Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2015, 02:18:44 PM »

Bernie Sanders' record on LGBT rights is more complicated than his campaign has admitted:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html

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Quarter century ago an old white guy wasn't demanding rights for guys who have sex with each other?!  B-b-b-b-ut that's impossible!

Here's a cell phone from back then...



Stuff changes.
The Koch Brothers supported gay rights 25 years ago...

I see no evidence of that.
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2015, 02:34:44 PM »
« Edited: October 06, 2015, 02:37:43 PM by Alex 🐲💠🌟 »


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