Should New York City ban Columbus Day?

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

The majority of states no longer observe Columbus Day, so I guess getting rid of it wouldn't be too bad. Now that white assimilation happened we don't need to give a certain group of whites their own holiday.

RIP St. Patrick's Day

St. Patrick's Day isn't an official holiday by government standards. Columbus Day is.

[Col. Roosevelt]

What do you have against Columbus Day?

I hope you're not an SJW.

Well then your hope is shattered.

Your kind are worse than the Tea Party, SJW filth.

[Mr. Reactionary]

What do you have against Columbus Day?

I hope you're not an SJW.

Well then your hope is shattered.

Your kind are worse than the Tea Party, SJW filth.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I imagine they won't because Bill DeBlasio is a great man and wouldn't do something so ignorant.

[Kevin]

Lol they actually made an episode of the Sopranos about this whole "banning" Columbus Day thing.

[Bigby]

I imagine they won't because Bill DeBlasio is a great man and wouldn't do something so ignorant.

>Bill DeBlasido
>Good Man

Pick one.

[YaBoyNY]

I imagine they won't because Bill DeBlasio is a great man and wouldn't do something so ignorant.

>Bill DeBlasido
>Good Man

Pick one.

He's both.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I imagine they won't because Bill DeBlasio is a great man and wouldn't do something so ignorant.

>Bill DeBlasido
>Good Man

Pick one.

De Blasio is near indisputably the best Mayor in America and one of the best politicians as a whole in this nation with a beautiful family and a record beyond compare. He has all the proper values I look for in a politician. Quite possibly the best Mayor since LaGuardia? Perhaps even better because Fiorello has better and worse stuff.

[SWE]

Like every year, BRTD complains about Columbus Day.

Probably because it happens every year?

[Simfan34]

I imagine they won't because Bill DeBlasio is a great man and wouldn't do something so ignorant.

>Bill DeBlasido
>Good Man

Pick one.

De Blasio is near indisputably the best Mayor in America and one of the best politicians as a whole in this nation with a beautiful family and a record beyond compare. He has all the proper values I look for in a politician. Quite possibly the best Mayor since LaGuardia? Perhaps even better because Fiorello has better and worse stuff.

What? No. No one believes this. He is at best a mediocrity.

[whiplash]

Columbus was a man who started the biggest genocide the history knows. The Black Lion awaits.

[DemPGH]

Since "LOL no" is not an option, I voted No.

[dead0man]

Columbus was a man who started the biggest genocide the history knows. The Black Lion awaits.

Columbus was a piece of sh**t, enough of a piece of sh**t that we don't have to make up sh**t like this to make him look bad.

[YaBoyNY]

I imagine they won't because Bill DeBlasio is a great man and wouldn't do something so ignorant.

>Bill DeBlasido
>Good Man

Pick one.

De Blasio is near indisputably the best Mayor in America and one of the best politicians as a whole in this nation with a beautiful family and a record beyond compare. He has all the proper values I look for in a politician. Quite possibly the best Mayor since LaGuardia? Perhaps even better because Fiorello has better and worse stuff.

What? No. No one believes this. He is at best a mediocrity.

I do, because I have a brain.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Columbus was a man who started the biggest genocide the history knows. The Black Lion awaits.

What is this "black lion"? Is it a terrorist group?

[Intell]

Yea, cos' this is #1 issue in this country, this issue is so important.

[Intell]

Yea, cos' this is #1 issue in this country, this issue is so important.

TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.

Yea you're right, however many social liberal and progressives make this issue and other feminist SJW issues on the headline focusing issues on un-needed conversation of social issues, instead of a real economic conversation and conversation on economic issues and fighting corruption.

[bedstuy]

People see Columbus Day more as a symbol of Italian heritage and exploration, than about the man himself. 

I think Enrico Fermi could replace Columbus and everyone would be happy with that.

[Figueira]

Yea, cos' this is #1 issue in this country, this issue is so important.

TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.

Exactly. And besides, the sooner we can get Columbus Day renamed, the sooner we can move on to more important issues after about a week of impotent conservative and racist tears. Simply putting off issues like this until later won't work unless everyone is on board with doing that.

Yea, cos' this is #1 issue in this country, this issue is so important.

TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.

Yea you're right, however many social liberal and progressives make this issue and other feminist SJW issues on the headline focusing issues on un-needed conversation of social issues, instead of a real economic conversation and conversation on economic issues and fighting corruption.

Uh, social issues are pretty important for people who aren't white, male, cisgender, sraight, etc.

[Torie]

The holiday never made sense to me ever, even before Columbus became toxic as a PC matter.

[ingemann]

Yea, cos' this is #1 issue in this country, this issue is so important.

TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.

Exactly. And besides, the sooner we can get Columbus Day renamed, the sooner we can move on to more important issues after about a week of impotent conservative and racist tears. Simply putting off issues like this until later won't work unless everyone is on board with doing that.

Yes keep figthing the good cause, ignore all those people who suffer from real problems which could be dealt with instead.

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TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.
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Yea you're right, however many social liberal and progressives make this issue and other feminist SJW issues on the headline focusing issues on un-needed conversation of social issues, instead of a real economic conversation and conversation on economic issues and fighting corruption.
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Uh, social issues are pretty important for people who aren't white, male, cisgender, sraight, etc.[/quote]

As all the groups who aren't White straight cisgender ablebody Anglo-Saxon Protestant make up a rather clear majority of the American electorate (even if we only include the people who votes), it clearly not "pretty important" to all those people.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

America isn't a "nation-state" so much as it is a "multi-nation state". There are many indigenous communities in America, with their own traditions, languages and customs. It's crucial that the American government respect these communities because they were forcibly absorbed into the American polity in the not-so distant past. Is removing state-sanction for Columbus Day important? Not especially, I'm far more concerned about poverty in those communities but removing state-sanction for Columbus Day would be a symbolic move.

Indigenous communities actually care about this issue. It's a "real" issue for them. It's worth respecting that concern for obvious moral reasons: conquered peoples deserve to be respected by states, it's a crucial aspect of human rights.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

People see Columbus Day more as a symbol of Italian heritage and exploration, than about the man himself. 

I think Enrico Fermi could replace Columbus and everyone would be happy with that.

^^^^^

Only racists and Italians are attached to Columbus Day. I can't say that I'm concerned about the racists but I think that Italian-Americans deserve some sort of celebration for their contributions to American society, Enrico Fermi seems like a good choice.

[DemPGH]

Yeah, you have to watch saying, "People are talking about X when people are starving" because it can be applied to anything, but in this case it resonates a bit. The Columbus thing really strikes me as a pseudo issue/social justice warrior/keyboard warrior issue (whatever the moniker is) because a lot of people throwing around the verbiage about him being Hitler and genocide or whatever really, I think, are making a comparison that's simply not there. The acquisition of land and wealth drove people to spread out in the Middle Ages, and that's what was happening. The conquest of the NW was literally inevitable. Columbus did something that no one else did (discover another hemisphere), and the keyboard warrior detractors don't give him credit for it (nor, I bet, have they read any of his journals), which is the primary thing that loses me when they start their blathering. It could be said that he was a poor administrator, because he was really just a ship captain, and so Spain, the Church, and Europe saw fit to appoint bureaucrats to oversee the administration of the NW when they realized that the whole thing was a much larger endeavor than thought. But his accomplishment remains.

[ingemann]

Yeah, you have to watch saying, "People are talking about X when people are starving" because it can be applied to anything, but in this case it resonates a bit. The Columbus thing really strikes me as a pseudo issue/social justice warrior/keyboard warrior issue (whatever the moniker is) because a lot of people throwing around the verbiage about him being Hitler and genocide or whatever really, I think, are making a comparison that's simply not there. The acquisition of land and wealth drove people to spread out in the Middle Ages, and that's what was happening. The conquest of the NW was literally inevitable. Columbus did something that no one else did (discover another hemisphere), and the keyboard warrior detractors don't give him credit for it (nor, I bet, have they read any of his journals), which is the primary thing that loses me when they start their blathering. It could be said that he was a poor administrator, because he was really just a ship captain, and so Spain, the Church, and Europe saw fit to appoint bureaucrats to oversee the administration of the NW when they realized where he actually was. But his accomplishment was an accomplishment.

I'm with the whole Columbus being a horrible excuse for a human being, but I fail to see how that make him distinct from a whole lot of other great men and important historical figures. People who's mentioned in the history books are usual so because they have made some decisions which had horrible effects on a lot of people.