Kevin McCarthy DROPS OUT, the House GOP in absolute chaos

[Slander and/or Libel]

I had heard he was "unbeatable", but I hadn't heard him speak.  I listen to NPR (nearly) everyday, watch a little news on the PBS, I knew of the guy.  Him speaking on Hannity certainly wasn't an everyday headline for two weeks.

...and I still don't get why it would negate me making fun of a Clinton fan for making fun of another politico for being untrustable.

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[dead0man]

I had heard he was "unbeatable", but I hadn't heard him speak.  I listen to NPR (nearly) everyday, watch a little news on the PBS, I knew of the guy.  Him speaking on Hannity certainly wasn't an everyday headline for two weeks.

...and I still don't get why it would negate me making fun of a Clinton fan for making fun of another politico for being untrustable.

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Understand?

Yes.  Thank you.

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The inmates are truly running the asylum now.

[King]

The Democrats need to play hardball here and outright refuse to work with the Republican Party as they are unfit to govern. All Democratic Presidential candidates should be required to sign a pledge saying they will not invite any Republican Congressional leaders to the White House for the next 4 years, acknowledge any questions shouted by them during the State of the Union, make any eye contact with any of them in passing, and automatically veto anything they try to sponsor. It's time to really drill this issue to the forefront of the news cycle how truly incompetent and unworthy of anyone's respect these people are.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I had heard he was "unbeatable", but I hadn't heard him speak.  I listen to NPR (nearly) everyday, watch a little news on the PBS, I knew of the guy.  Him speaking on Hannity certainly wasn't an everyday headline for two weeks.

...and I still don't get why it would negate me making fun of a Clinton fan for making fun of another politico for being untrustable.

It kind of was. It was shown again and again on MSNBC and CNN, in news articles online, it's dominated the conversation, etc. This just proves only listening to NPR and bits of PBS can make you really out of touch.

We might add how incredibly stupid this is as NPR and PBS are by far superior news outlets than any cable news.

[Blue3]

But out of touch.

As today proves.

[Horsemask]

I'm shocked. Crazy days ahead.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The Democrats need to play hardball here and outright refuse to work with the Republican Party as they are unfit to govern. All Democratic Presidential candidates should be required to sign a pledge saying they will not invite any Republican Congressional leaders to the White House for the next 4 years, acknowledge any questions shouted by them during the State of the Union, make any eye contact with any of them in passing, and automatically veto anything they try to sponsor. It's time to really drill this issue to the forefront of the news cycle how truly incompetent and unworthy of anyone's respect these people are.

Then quit calling yourself a republican.

[RI]

The Democrats need to play hardball here and outright refuse to work with the Republican Party as they are unfit to govern. All Democratic Presidential candidates should be required to sign a pledge saying they will not invite any Republican Congressional leaders to the White House for the next 4 years, acknowledge any questions shouted by them during the State of the Union, make any eye contact with any of them in passing, and automatically veto anything they try to sponsor. It's time to really drill this issue to the forefront of the news cycle how truly incompetent and unworthy of anyone's respect these people are.

Then quit calling yourself a republican.

King's never been a national Republican. He's explained this several times.

[Col. Roosevelt]

I'm a total noob on Congressional politics; why is this considered "insane" and "chaos"? What is the best that can come of all this, and the worst (for American liberals)?

[Likely Voter]

The Benghazi gaffe putting him on the chopping block but I think the buzz about how he can't speak properly is what brought down the blade, especially after Colbert last night...
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/256323-colbert-mccarthy-speaks-english-like-words

McCarthy was becoming a joke before he even had the job.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The Democrats need to play hardball here and outright refuse to work with the Republican Party as they are unfit to govern. All Democratic Presidential candidates should be required to sign a pledge saying they will not invite any Republican Congressional leaders to the White House for the next 4 years, acknowledge any questions shouted by them during the State of the Union, make any eye contact with any of them in passing, and automatically veto anything they try to sponsor. It's time to really drill this issue to the forefront of the news cycle how truly incompetent and unworthy of anyone's respect these people are.

Then quit calling yourself a republican.

King's never been a national Republican. He's explained this several times.

He doesn't even qualify to be a NM republican with that language. I don't hear Martinez saying that.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The Democrats need to play hardball here and outright refuse to work with the Republican Party as they are unfit to govern. All Democratic Presidential candidates should be required to sign a pledge saying they will not invite any Republican Congressional leaders to the White House for the next 4 years, acknowledge any questions shouted by them during the State of the Union, make any eye contact with any of them in passing, and automatically veto anything they try to sponsor. It's time to really drill this issue to the forefront of the news cycle how truly incompetent and unworthy of anyone's respect these people are.

Then quit calling yourself a republican.

King's never been a national Republican. He's explained this several times.

He doesn't even qualify to be a NM republican with that language. I don't hear Martinez saying that.

I don't remember anyone appointing you a judge to decide whether a poster "deserves" to be a member of one party or another.

[Torie]

Maybe if there is a God, Ryan will accept the Speakership, even though it will deflect from his more important work. I say that, because he has the gravitas and respect, that he will have more room to discipline the nutters, than anyone else in the House.  You can't shut down the government because you refuse to raise the debt limit, etc. And he is in a position, that he need not give the Freedom Caucus their pound of flesh. He does not need to promise anything to them, or anyone else.

Another alternative, is to let the chaos continue, until the moderate Pubs can cut a deal with blue dog Dems to get someone in, who will govern sensibly. It's intolerable that any small faction can hold the whole House hostage.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The Democrats need to play hardball here and outright refuse to work with the Republican Party as they are unfit to govern. All Democratic Presidential candidates should be required to sign a pledge saying they will not invite any Republican Congressional leaders to the White House for the next 4 years, acknowledge any questions shouted by them during the State of the Union, make any eye contact with any of them in passing, and automatically veto anything they try to sponsor. It's time to really drill this issue to the forefront of the news cycle how truly incompetent and unworthy of anyone's respect these people are.

Then quit calling yourself a republican.

King's never been a national Republican. He's explained this several times.

He doesn't even qualify to be a NM republican with that language. I don't hear Martinez saying that.

I don't remember anyone appointing you a judge to decide whether a poster "deserves" to be a member of one party or another.

Name one other republican who would agree with King's statement. Or hey, take this the other way around. Find a Democrat who would say that all of the democratic platform is terrible. Hint: You won't find any, aside from random guys in OK who haven't voted Democrat in years but are too lazy to change their registration.

If King somehow got elected to congress as a republican (put the low likelihood of him winning a primary in NM-2 aside, just assume it somehow happened), he would not be put on any committees, he would be ridiculed at every opportunity, and he would probably be expelled from the republican caucus in a matter of months.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

The Democrats need to play hardball here and outright refuse to work with the Republican Party as they are unfit to govern. All Democratic Presidential candidates should be required to sign a pledge saying they will not invite any Republican Congressional leaders to the White House for the next 4 years, acknowledge any questions shouted by them during the State of the Union, make any eye contact with any of them in passing, and automatically veto anything they try to sponsor. It's time to really drill this issue to the forefront of the news cycle how truly incompetent and unworthy of anyone's respect these people are.

Then quit calling yourself a republican.

King's never been a national Republican. He's explained this several times.

He doesn't even qualify to be a NM republican with that language. I don't hear Martinez saying that.

I don't remember anyone appointing you a judge to decide whether a poster "deserves" to be a member of one party or another.

Name one other republican who would agree with King's statement. Or hey, take this the other way around. Find a Democrat who would say that all of the democratic platform is terrible. Hint: You won't find any, aside from random guys in OK who haven't voted Democrat in years but are too lazy to change their registration.

If King somehow got elected to congress as a republican (put the low likelihood of him winning a primary in NM-2 aside, just assume it somehow happened), he would not be put on any committees, he would be ridiculed at every opportunity, and he would probably be expelled from the republican caucus in a matter of months.

I completely agree with King's statement even though I am good deal to his right... and it's not that we're too lazy to change our registration. I just re-registered a week ago, reaffirming my commitment to the party.

And LOL at the point about Democrats in OK not being too lazy to change registration. Are you serious? Half the south is still just DINO's! Especially Oklahoma!

[King]

I'm not talking about the Republican Party platform, Wulfric. Or even conservatism.

The Republican Congress needs to be taken out back and shot.

They are just fundamentally not serious about governing.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The Democrats need to play hardball here and outright refuse to work with the Republican Party as they are unfit to govern. All Democratic Presidential candidates should be required to sign a pledge saying they will not invite any Republican Congressional leaders to the White House for the next 4 years, acknowledge any questions shouted by them during the State of the Union, make any eye contact with any of them in passing, and automatically veto anything they try to sponsor. It's time to really drill this issue to the forefront of the news cycle how truly incompetent and unworthy of anyone's respect these people are.

Then quit calling yourself a republican.

King's never been a national Republican. He's explained this several times.

He doesn't even qualify to be a NM republican with that language. I don't hear Martinez saying that.

I don't remember anyone appointing you a judge to decide whether a poster "deserves" to be a member of one party or another.

Name one other republican who would agree with King's statement. Or hey, take this the other way around. Find a Democrat who would say that all of the democratic platform is terrible. Hint: You won't find any, aside from random guys in OK who haven't voted Democrat in years but are too lazy to change their registration.

If King somehow got elected to congress as a republican (put the low likelihood of him winning a primary in NM-2 aside, just assume it somehow happened), he would not be put on any committees, he would be ridiculed at every opportunity, and he would probably be expelled from the republican caucus in a matter of months.

I completely agree with King's statement even though I am good deal to his right... and it's not that we're too lazy to change our registration. I just re-registered a week ago, reaffirming my commitment to the party.

And LOL at the point about Democrats in OK not being too lazy to change registration. Are you serious? Half the south is still just DINO's! Especially Oklahoma!

I didn't specify how many of these random guys in OK who won't change their registration there are. But FTR, more of them are changing it, there are finally more registered Republicans than Democrats in OK.

But Smilo, you could still be considered a republican in the sense that you've endorsed one for President. Meanwhile King has enthusiastically endorsed Hillary Clinton.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

>claims to be a moderate hero that hates partisanship
>tells a moderate Republican to eject himself from the party because he does not meet his strict litmus test for what a Republican is, further polarizing the party

Classic Wulfric!

[cinyc]

I'm not talking about the Republican Party platform, Wulfric. Or even conservatism.

The Republican Congress needs to be taken out back and shot.

They are just fundamentally not serious about governing.

You're right.  The Republican Congress doesn't fight Obama hard enough and actually force him to veto bills, putting him and the Democratic party on the record on the wrong side of public opinion.  Instead, they've been preemptively surrendering on things like the Iran treaty, where the mushy establishment created a rule that only 1/3rd of the Congress is needed to ratify a treaty instead of the constitutionally required 2/3rds.  This has justifiably enraged the Republican base, and is coming back to haunt the establishment wing of the Republican party.  While it's not clear whether the infidelity allegations or his gaffes are truly what did McCarthy in, the establishment wing of the party is reaping what it sows.  

Why is compromise always a one-way street, where conservatives must always yield to so-called moderates?

[King]

I'm not talking about the Republican Party platform, Wulfric. Or even conservatism.

The Republican Congress needs to be taken out back and shot.

They are just fundamentally not serious about governing.

You're right.  The Republican Congress doesn't fight Obama hard enough and actually force him to veto bills, putting him and the Democratic party on the record on the wrong side of public opinion.  Instead, they've been preemptively surrendering on things like the Iran treaty, where the mushy establishment created a rule that only 1/3rd of the Congress is needed to ratify a treaty instead of the constitutionally required 2/3rds.  This has justifiably enraged the Republican base, and is coming back to haunt the establishment wing of the Republican party.  While it's not clear whether the infidelity allegations or his gaffes are truly what did McCarthy in, the establishment wing of the party is reaping what it sows.  

Why is compromise always a one-way street, where conservatives must always yield to so-called moderates?

I will honestly agree. The Republicans have control of both chambers and Obama's veto pen is gathering dust. If they can't get bills to a Democratic President's desk for veto, why should I believe they'll get bills to a Republican President's desk for signage?

They are not serious about governing.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

Obama's fault.

[All Along The Watchtower]

I'm not talking about the Republican Party platform, Wulfric. Or even conservatism.

The Republican Congress needs to be taken out back and shot.

They are just fundamentally not serious about governing.

You're right.  The Republican Congress doesn't fight Obama hard enough and actually force him to veto bills, putting him and the Democratic party on the record on the wrong side of public opinion.  Instead, they've been preemptively surrendering on things like the Iran treaty, where the mushy establishment created a rule that only 1/3rd of the Congress is needed to ratify a treaty instead of the constitutionally required 2/3rds.  This has justifiably enraged the Republican base, and is coming back to haunt the establishment wing of the Republican party.  While it's not clear whether the infidelity allegations or his gaffes are truly what did McCarthy in, the establishment wing of the party is reaping what it sows.  

Why is compromise always a one-way street, where conservatives must always yield to so-called moderates?

I will honestly agree. The Republicans have control of both chambers and Obama's veto pen is gathering dust. If they can't get bills to a Democratic President's desk for veto, why should I believe they'll get bills to a Republican President's desk for signage?

They are not serious about governing.

They're in perpetual campaign mode. What do you think the investigations into BENGHAZI are about?  They care more about lessening the risk of primary challenges than they do about governance.

[whiplash]

Kevin McCarthy is just a joke. He can't do anything about the Black Lion.

[MaxQue]

It's intolerable that any small faction can hold the whole House hostage.

No, it's totally deserved. Establishment ought to have raised years ago and primary every single mmber of the Liberty Caucus.

It's a self-inflicted wound.