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« on: October 11, 2015, 06:38:20 PM »
« edited: October 11, 2015, 06:44:04 PM by Moderate Hero Republican »

Since 1896

Ill say


For Conservative:

1996: Clinton Vs Dole
1924: Coolidge vs Davis

For Liberal:

1972: Nixon vs McGovern
1936: FDR vs Landon
1912: Wilson vs Teddy Roosevelt

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2015, 06:42:55 PM »

Neither of those are really correct, though 1996 is better than 1972.


Both Conservative would be 1924, if just considering the two major party candidates

Both Liberal would be 1936.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2015, 06:44:39 PM »

Neither of those are really correct, though 1996 is better than 1972.


Both Conservative would be 1924, if just considering the two major party candidates

Both Liberal would be 1936.

Didnt Clinton Run on Welfare Reform, Lowering Taxes, and Cutting Spending or was that 1992
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2015, 10:02:55 PM »

1940 would be a good example of "both liberal"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm9ft5HXaUw
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2015, 10:31:23 PM »

Arguably, 1932 could be both.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 12:39:04 AM »


Funny enough FDR ran as a fiscal conservative in 32.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 12:41:48 AM »

Neither of those are really correct, though 1996 is better than 1972.


Both Conservative would be 1924, if just considering the two major party candidates

Both Liberal would be 1936.

Didnt Clinton Run on Welfare Reform, Lowering Taxes, and Cutting Spending or was that 1992

Clinton 1996 was a pretty right-wing campaign. His top adviser, Dick Morris told him he had to go totally 3rd way to win. Because Dick Morris is so great at predicting elections that he had Arkansas as safe Obama in 2008.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2015, 01:14:15 AM »

Neither of those are really correct, though 1996 is better than 1972.


Both Conservative would be 1924, if just considering the two major party candidates

Both Liberal would be 1936.

Didnt Clinton Run on Welfare Reform, Lowering Taxes, and Cutting Spending or was that 1992

Clinton 1996 was a pretty right-wing campaign. His top adviser, Dick Morris told him he had to go totally 3rd way to win. Because Dick Morris is so great at predicting elections that he had Arkansas as safe Obama in 2008.
At least he did get the Romney winning by 325 electoral votes thing right though.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2015, 01:19:55 PM »

Neither of those are really correct, though 1996 is better than 1972.


Both Conservative would be 1924, if just considering the two major party candidates

Both Liberal would be 1936.

Didnt Clinton Run on Welfare Reform, Lowering Taxes, and Cutting Spending or was that 1992

1996 qualifies just because of the school uniform garbage.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2015, 01:07:53 PM »

Their actual ideologies or what they ran on?  It's rather well-documented that FDR in 1932 and Clinton in 1992 ran pretty far to the right of what they actually believed because the political climate called for it.  I guess the usual ones that have been mentioned are the obvious ones.  I'd argue that there hasn't been a Republican "more liberal" than the Democrat in any election post-1932 (any election before that, and ESPECIALLY any election before 1896, really can't be neatly put into "liberal" vs. "conservative").
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 12:24:23 PM »

Their actual ideologies or what they ran on?  It's rather well-documented that FDR in 1932 and Clinton in 1992 ran pretty far to the right of what they actually believed because the political climate called for it.

Actually, Clinton ran to the left of where he ultimately governed.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2015, 04:27:50 PM »

1924 is the obvious example of a presidential election in which both major parties nominated conservatives. I suppose you could argue that Carter and Ford were somewhat similar as well. There are far more elections in which both major party candidates were liberals: off the top of my head, 1904, 1912, 1940, and 1948 are all contenders.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2015, 04:45:35 PM »

1940 comes to mind the quickest.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2015, 11:14:57 PM »

1924 is the obvious example of a presidential election in which both major parties nominated conservatives. I suppose you could argue that Carter and Ford were somewhat similar as well. There are far more elections in which both major party candidates were liberals: off the top of my head, 1904, 1912, 1940, and 1948 are all contenders.

Wasnt Alton B Parker a Conservative( I believe that was the last election when the Democrats had a more conservative candidate then the Republicans)
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2015, 04:35:13 PM »

In 1976 I think Carter may have been more conservative than Ford
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2015, 04:38:45 PM »

In 1976 I think Carter may have been more conservative than Ford

And you'd be wrong.  Southern accents and being an evangelical have zero impact on one's conservativeness.  Also, Moderate Hero Republican, while Parker was from the more conservative wing of the party, I think it's pretty clear Coolidge was more conservative...
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2015, 05:14:19 PM »

In 1976 I think Carter may have been more conservative than Ford

And you'd be wrong.  Southern accents and being an evangelical have zero impact on one's conservativeness.  Also, Moderate Hero Republican, while Parker was from the more conservative wing of the party, I think it's pretty clear Coolidge was more conservative...

Parker, not Davis. 1904, yo.
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2015, 05:50:04 PM »

In 1976 I think Carter may have been more conservative than Ford

And you'd be wrong.  Southern accents and being an evangelical have zero impact on one's conservativeness.  Also, Moderate Hero Republican, while Parker was from the more conservative wing of the party, I think it's pretty clear Coolidge was more conservative...

Parker, not Davis. 1904, yo.

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2015, 10:32:22 AM »

Eisenhower vs. Stevenson, 1952 and 1956. Both ended up with the conservative voters of the states that they won (except that Stevenson won the economically-liberal votes of miners in Missouri and West Virginia).   
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2015, 11:29:37 AM »

1916  Wilson (D) and Hughes (R) both liberal

1924  Davis (D) and Coolidge (R) both conservative

1940  FDR (D) and Willkie (R) both liberal

1944  FDR (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1948  Truman (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1952  Stevenson (D) and Eisenhower (R) both liberal

1956  Stevenson (D) and Eisenhower (R) both liberal

1960  JFK (D) and Nixon (R) both liberal

1976  Carter (D) and Ford (R) both conservative

It's not real complicated.  The nation became significantly more conservative after 1965 and Southern Democrats progressively became Republicans at all levels to the point where mostly all Southern elected officials became Republican.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2015, 01:09:33 PM »

1916  Wilson (D) and Hughes (R) both liberal

1924  Davis (D) and Coolidge (R) both conservative

1940  FDR (D) and Willkie (R) both liberal

1944  FDR (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1948  Truman (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1952  Stevenson (D) and Eisenhower (R) both liberal

1956  Stevenson (D) and Eisenhower (R) both liberal

1960  JFK (D) and Nixon (R) both liberal

1976  Carter (D) and Ford (R) both conservative

It's not real complicated.  The nation became significantly more conservative after 1965 and Southern Democrats progressively became Republicans at all levels to the point where mostly all Southern elected officials became Republican.

Eisenhower was not liberal, and it's laughable to say Carter was a conservative.
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2015, 05:07:46 PM »

1916  Wilson (D) and Hughes (R) both liberal

1924  Davis (D) and Coolidge (R) both conservative

1940  FDR (D) and Willkie (R) both liberal

1944  FDR (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1948  Truman (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1952  Stevenson (D) and Eisenhower (R) both liberal

1956  Stevenson (D) and Eisenhower (R) both liberal

1960  JFK (D) and Nixon (R) both liberal

1976  Carter (D) and Ford (R) both conservative

It's not real complicated.  The nation became significantly more conservative after 1965 and Southern Democrats progressively became Republicans at all levels to the point where mostly all Southern elected officials became Republican.

Eisenhower was not liberal, and it's laughable to say Carter was a conservative.

Carter was responsible for getting the deregulation ball rolling. He also believed that budget deficits created inflation. His 1980 budget called for increased military spending and tax cuts.

"" mostly all Southern elected officials became Republican."""

Not true at all. They were replaced by GOPers but most didnt become Republican
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2015, 07:12:19 PM »

1916  Wilson (D) and Hughes (R) both liberal

1924  Davis (D) and Coolidge (R) both conservative

1940  FDR (D) and Willkie (R) both liberal

1944  FDR (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1948  Truman (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1952  Stevenson (D) and Eisenhower (R) both liberal

1956  Stevenson (D) and Eisenhower (R) both liberal

1960  JFK (D) and Nixon (R) both liberal

1976  Carter (D) and Ford (R) both conservative

It's not real complicated.  The nation became significantly more conservative after 1965 and Southern Democrats progressively became Republicans at all levels to the point where mostly all Southern elected officials became Republican.

Eisenhower was not liberal, and it's laughable to say Carter was a conservative.

Carter was responsible for getting the deregulation ball rolling. He also believed that budget deficits created inflation. His 1980 budget called for increased military spending and tax cuts.

"" mostly all Southern elected officials became Republican."""

Not true at all. They were replaced by GOPers but most didnt become Republican

In his 1976 campaign, though, Carter had called for full employment, a public universal health care program, expanding environmental laws, and creating federal departments for education, energy and welfare (which were indeed created). He was also left of Ford on social issues-Carter called for decriminalizing marijuana (opposed by Ford) and opposed a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade (supported by Ford). He governed somewhat to the right of his rhetoric, but he was clearly the more liberal candidate in 1976.
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2015, 04:13:15 PM »


1924  Davis (D) and Coolidge (R) both conservative

1940  FDR (D) and Willkie (R) both liberal

1944  FDR (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

1948  Truman (D) and Dewey (R) both liberal

Imo these are the only post-1895 elections that qualify. 1916 is close but Hughes was really more of a moderate.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2015, 07:27:08 PM »

Both liberal: 1912, 1940. Both conservative: 1924, 1996.
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