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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« on: October 13, 2015, 01:07:53 PM »

Their actual ideologies or what they ran on?  It's rather well-documented that FDR in 1932 and Clinton in 1992 ran pretty far to the right of what they actually believed because the political climate called for it.  I guess the usual ones that have been mentioned are the obvious ones.  I'd argue that there hasn't been a Republican "more liberal" than the Democrat in any election post-1932 (any election before that, and ESPECIALLY any election before 1896, really can't be neatly put into "liberal" vs. "conservative").
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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 08:30:31 AM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist


Holy moly, Dwight Eisenhower was not a liberal.  This is the strangest revisionism of them all.

You know how hardcore conservatives like Cruz call people like Kasich "RINOs" because they aren't quite as extreme as the "true conservatives" would like, but Democrats laugh at this because both are conservatives at the end of the day who simply disagree on method and pragmatism?  Insert Goldwater and Eisenhower instead.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 08:31:19 AM »

In 1908 Taft was arguably liberal/progressive, but he definitely was not in 1912.

You know Roosevelt criticized him for breaking up TOO MANY trusts, right?...
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 08:40:56 PM »

1996 one could argue had two Conservatives running against eachother.

The top 3 candidates were right-wing, since Perot was right-wing too.

They were all more conservative than the Libertarians.

Depends on how you view conservative, IMO.  If you're looking at wedge issues and rudimentary metrics like "small government," sure ... but if you're looking at motive (means to an end) and the type of world/societal structure each candidate would prefer, not at all.  With the latter view (which I adhere to), the GOP and Democrats largely haven't strayed from their basic goals since each of their inceptions, regardless of which methods or campaign slogans they've used to get there.
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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2016, 11:02:40 AM »

1912: all 3 progressive
1924: both conservative (excluding LaFollete)
1936: all liberal (ish)
1944: all liberal
1948: all liberal
1952: all liberal
1956: all liberal
1960: all liberal maybe
1976: both centerist


Holy moly, Dwight Eisenhower was not a liberal.  This is the strangest revisionism of them all.

You know how hardcore conservatives like Cruz call people like Kasich "RINOs" because they aren't quite as extreme as the "true conservatives" would like, but Democrats laugh at this because both are conservatives at the end of the day who simply disagree on method and pragmatism?  Insert Goldwater and Eisenhower instead.

You do know Ike didn't run in 1960, right?
He was talking about 1952 and 1956, which are also on the list.

He did put 1960 in bold.

No, the post I was quoting already had it in bold.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2016, 01:39:08 PM »

1960, Nicon the liberal. JFK the conservative.

Even if this post weren't comically retarded, it wouldn't even qualify as you've clearly labeled the two candidates as being of differing ideologies (even if you got that horribly wrong).
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