Is BRTD a neo-con?

[7,052,770]

one with a predominately Muslim population.

Ah. I see.
Did you know that India has the second largest Islamic population in the world?

"predominantly" means he's obviously talking about percentages, not total people....

[MaC]

yes!  He makes Jerry Falwell look like a far-left socialist.  : P

[they don't love you like i love you]

I think a lot of people here don't know what neo-cons are. They are not very similar to the religious right.

Regardless I consider myself to be very opposed to them. One key difference between myself and them is they are intent on imperialism, while my "hawkishness" comes from being opposed to imperialism. I am opposed to Islamic imperialism, Russian imperialism, American imperialism, etc. And I am actually quite dovish, there is no country in the world I support a direct military strike on, there are simply many cases where I wish the people of a country would oust their own government, which sometimes happens. The people are ousting Karimov now, just as I hope someone in Russia would do to Putin, or the new Iraqi government if they continue down the theocratic path. Perhaps I have created a new foreign policy ideology.

[Colin]

He certainly displays neo-con tendencies. He's always advocating overthrowing the governments of Russia and places like Uzbekistan.  Most of the Neo-Con intelligentsia are/were members of Social Democrats USA, a ex-trotskyite group.

Hilarious.

I seriously don't see how that's so funny. The information about neo-conservatism coming out of Social Democrats USA is absolutely true and BRTD's tendency to want to overthrow every government he doesn't like, although whether he wants a Communist dictatorship or a true Democracy to come out of these overthrown governments is up in the air.

I agree with Mitty. In 20 years BRTD will be a conservative Republican living life in the suburbs with two kids, a wife, and a McMansion. He will have a nice job in middle or upper management and will take an annual trip to Florida every year with the kids.

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He certainly displays neo-con tendencies. He's always advocating overthrowing the governments of Russia and places like Uzbekistan.  Most of the Neo-Con intelligentsia are/were members of Social Democrats USA, a ex-trotskyite group.

Hilarious.

How so? Are you going to actually refute my arguments or ridicule them like a 5 year old? Or maybe you just don't know what a neo-con is.

Well obviously I'm going to have to see some of this backwoods conspiracy stuff. If you could post some credible links to prove your point I would appreciate it.

[The Dowager Mod]

no

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He certainly displays neo-con tendencies. He's always advocating overthrowing the governments of Russia and places like Uzbekistan.  Most of the Neo-Con intelligentsia are/were members of Social Democrats USA, a ex-trotskyite group.

Hilarious.

I seriously don't see how that's so funny. The information about neo-conservatism coming out of Social Democrats USA is absolutely true and BRTD's tendency to want to overthrow every government he doesn't like, although whether he wants a Communist dictatorship or a true Democracy to come out of these overthrown governments is up in the air.

Maybe the Illuminati are in on it? Hmm...Sorry I really just have to see some evidence.

[The Dowager Mod]

He certainly displays neo-con tendencies. He's always advocating overthrowing the governments of Russia and places like Uzbekistan.  Most of the Neo-Con intelligentsia are/were members of Social Democrats USA, a ex-trotskyite group.

Hilarious.

I seriously don't see how that's so funny. The information about neo-conservatism coming out of Social Democrats USA is absolutely true and BRTD's tendency to want to overthrow every government he doesn't like, although whether he wants a Communist dictatorship or a true Democracy to come out of these overthrown governments is up in the air.

Maybe the Illuminati are in on it? Hmm...Sorry I really just have to see some evidence.

nah everyone knows it's the carlyle group

[Bono]

He certainly displays neo-con tendencies. He's always advocating overthrowing the governments of Russia and places like Uzbekistan.  Most of the Neo-Con intelligentsia are/were members of Social Democrats USA, a ex-trotskyite group.

Hilarious.

I seriously don't see how that's so funny. The information about neo-conservatism coming out of Social Democrats USA is absolutely true and BRTD's tendency to want to overthrow every government he doesn't like, although whether he wants a Communist dictatorship or a true Democracy to come out of these overthrown governments is up in the air.

Maybe the Illuminati are in on it? Hmm...Sorry I really just have to see some evidence.

wikipedia.com

"Neoconservatism as an "ex-leftist" movement

Lind further writes that neoconservatism "originated in the 1970s as a movement of anti-Soviet liberals and social democrats in the tradition of Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Humphrey and Henry ("Scoop") Jackson, many of whom preferred to call themselves 'paleoliberals.'" When the Cold War ended, "many 'paleoliberals' drifted back to the Democratic center... Today's neocons are a shrunken remnant of the original broad neocon coalition. Nevertheless, the origins of their ideology on the left are still apparent. The fact that most of the younger neocons were never on the left is irrelevant; they are the intellectual (and, in the case of William Kristol and John Podhoretz, the literal) heirs of older ex-leftists." [6] (http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040223&c=2&s=lind)

In particular, Lind argues that the neoconservatives are influenced by the thought of Trotskyists such as James Burnham and Max Shachtman, who argued that "the United States and similar societies are dominated by a decadent, postbourgeois 'new class'". He sees the neoconservative concept of "global democratic revolution" as deriving from the Trotskyist Fourth International's "vision of permanent revolution". He also points to what he sees as the Marxist origin of "the economic determinist idea that liberal democracy is an epiphenomenon of capitalism", which he describes as "Marxism with entrepreneurs substituted for proletarians as the heroic subjects of history." [7] (http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040223&c=2&s=lind)

Lind further argues that "The organization as well as the ideology of the neoconservative movement has left-liberal origins". He draws a line from the center-left anti-Communist Congress for Cultural Freedom to the Committee on the Present Danger to the Project for the New American Century and adds that "European social democratic models inspired the quintessential neocon institution, the National Endowment for Democracy." [8]

[minionofmidas]

Is Dean an idiot?

He's a reformed communist with very hawkish foreign policy views. He says he would overthrow Iraq's new govt somewhere and grudges against Muslims and Islam in general.

Dean says that? Okay, in that case, yes, he is an idiot.

[minionofmidas]

No, has absolutely zero hawkish feelings. He just is a bigot and hates any religion other than his own, especially Islam. He is in no way neo-conservative.

You just gave a fair and unbalanced definition of a neocon.

-EDIT: Such a beautiful Freudian slip of mine. I meant to write "unbiased". Of course it's really nothing of the kind. :EDIT-

[minionofmidas]

how many neo-cons can you name who oppose the Iraq War?

Most of the governments I wish to overthrow are in fact allies of the neocons (like Uzbekistan). The primary reason for my dislike of Islam is their extremely backward views on social issues.

Oh yeah, look at the guy in my signature. How do neo-cons feel toward him?

Venezuelan necons love him.

[Joe Republic]

Who cares?

[they don't love you like i love you]

well I'm not Venezuelan.

I think the real bottom line on this is: How often do I agree on foreign policy with John Ford?

I agree with Mitty. In 20 years BRTD will be a conservative Republican living life in the suburbs with two kids, a wife, and a McMansion. He will have a nice job in middle or upper management and will take an annual trip to Florida every year with the kids.

ha, I couldn't get a job in upper management even if I wanted to. I'm actually thinking of dropping out of college. Therefore I don't see any reason why I'd ever become a Republican, since I obviously wouldn't agree with them on economics if I don't have a college degree, and obviously will never agree with them on social issues.

[Colin]

well I'm not Venezuelan.

I think the real bottom line on this is: How often do I agree on foreign policy with John Ford?

I agree with Mitty. In 20 years BRTD will be a conservative Republican living life in the suburbs with two kids, a wife, and a McMansion. He will have a nice job in middle or upper management and will take an annual trip to Florida every year with the kids.

ha, I couldn't get a job in upper management even if I wanted to. I'm actually thinking of dropping out of college. Therefore I don't see any reason why I'd ever become a Republican, since I obviously wouldn't agree with them on economics if I don't have a college degree, and obviously will never agree with them on social issues.

Uh huh. That's what every rebellious college student says. See Yuppie.

[Hitchabrut]

Is Pat Robertson a hippie?

[Phony Moderate]

No.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

He does have all the ability of a blind ostrich hearing a knight's helmet with a head stuck in the head ability to see the obvious blinking truth. So they do have things in common.

[Eraserhead]

BRTD has the ability to formulate his own truth.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is Bush an altermondialist ?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Yes, most certainly.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Yes, most certainly.