The Politics Test: #15

[ElectionsGuy]

1. Strongly Agree. 71/29, 54/16/15/15
2. Agree. 52/48, 43/10/26/21
3. Disagree. 21/79, 4/17/38/42
4. Strongly Agree. 70/30, 55/14/14/16
5. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 58/28/5/8
6. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 60/27/7/7
7. Agree. 71/29, 37/33/20/10
8. Disagree. 40/60, 12/29/27/33
9. Strongly Agree. 71/29, 51/20/20/9
10. Agree. 55/45, 29/27/16/29
11. Disagree. 20/80, 11/8/33/48
12. Strongly Agree. 75/25, 58/17/15/10

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So, this question is ridiculously vague, but I know what its trying to gauge. Society's standards are meant in terms of work, education, religious befliefs, etc. Conservatives often complain about welfare moochers, about people who don't want to work, about kids who don't follow their parents traditional customs. Therefore, agreeing with would be socially authoritarian, or socially conservative.

I strongly disagree with it, since I think individuals should set standards for themselves and no individual should have to live by the collective standards of others. I guess this is kind of a majority rule vs minority rights kind of question too.

[Leftbehind]

1. Strongly Agree. 71/29, 54/16/15/15
2. Agree. 52/48, 43/10/26/21
3. Disagree. 21/79, 4/17/38/42
4. Strongly Agree. 70/30, 55/14/14/16
5. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 58/28/5/8
6. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 60/27/7/7
7. Agree. 71/29, 37/33/20/10
8. Disagree. 40/60, 12/29/27/33
9. Strongly Agree. 71/29. 51/20/20/9
10. Agree. 55/45. 29/27/16/29
11. Disagree. 20/80. 11/8/33/48

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So, this question is ridiculously vague, but I know what its trying to gauge. Society's standards are meant in terms of work, education, religious befliefs, etc. Conservatives often complain about welfare moochers, about people who don't want to work, about kids who don't follow their parents traditional customs. Therefore, agreeing with would be socially authoritarian, or socially conservative.

I strongly disagree with it, since I think individuals should set standards for themselves and no individual should have to live by the collective standards of others. I guess this is kind of a majority rule vs minority rights kind of question too.

Societies standards also include paying their taxes, and what the rich should earn. Even in Thatcherite UK, our society's view of what the richest should earn & pay wildly differs from said socons (who often appear to drop all notion of societal obligation at this junction) so I don't agree with that characterisation.  

[ElectionsGuy]

1. Strongly Agree. 71/29, 54/16/15/15
2. Agree. 52/48, 43/10/26/21
3. Disagree. 21/79, 4/17/38/42
4. Strongly Agree. 70/30, 55/14/14/16
5. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 58/28/5/8
6. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 60/27/7/7
7. Agree. 71/29, 37/33/20/10
8. Disagree. 40/60, 12/29/27/33
9. Strongly Agree. 71/29. 51/20/20/9
10. Agree. 55/45. 29/27/16/29
11. Disagree. 20/80. 11/8/33/48

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So, this question is ridiculously vague, but I know what its trying to gauge. Society's standards are meant in terms of work, education, religious befliefs, etc. Conservatives often complain about welfare moochers, about people who don't want to work, about kids who don't follow their parents traditional customs. Therefore, agreeing with would be socially authoritarian, or socially conservative.

I strongly disagree with it, since I think individuals should set standards for themselves and no individual should have to live by the collective standards of others. I guess this is kind of a majority rule vs minority rights kind of question too.

Societies standards also include paying their taxes, and what the rich should take as payment. Even in Thatcherite UK, our society's view of what the richest should earn & pay wildly differs from said socons so I don't agree with that characterisation. 

I could see how it could be left wing too. But I'm just saying, its a social question that is libertarian vs authoritarian, not left vs right. You can vote your conscious, but the test may not take it that way.

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Actually I don't have much of a problem with this question tbh. It's a good gauge upon a person's small c conservative thought.

It's interesting though - this would be an interesting way to contrast people of similar ideological bents (e.g. East vs West coast liberals)

[Leftbehind]

1. Strongly Agree. 71/29, 54/16/15/15
2. Agree. 52/48, 43/10/26/21
3. Disagree. 21/79, 4/17/38/42
4. Strongly Agree. 70/30, 55/14/14/16
5. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 58/28/5/8
6. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 60/27/7/7
7. Agree. 71/29, 37/33/20/10
8. Disagree. 40/60, 12/29/27/33
9. Strongly Agree. 71/29. 51/20/20/9
10. Agree. 55/45. 29/27/16/29
11. Disagree. 20/80. 11/8/33/48

Keep voting on proposition 12 (until 6:07 PM EST)
Keep voting on proposition 13
Keep voting on proposition 14

So, this question is ridiculously vague, but I know what its trying to gauge. Society's standards are meant in terms of work, education, religious befliefs, etc. Conservatives often complain about welfare moochers, about people who don't want to work, about kids who don't follow their parents traditional customs. Therefore, agreeing with would be socially authoritarian, or socially conservative.

I strongly disagree with it, since I think individuals should set standards for themselves and no individual should have to live by the collective standards of others. I guess this is kind of a majority rule vs minority rights kind of question too.

Societies standards also include paying their taxes, and what the rich should take as payment. Even in Thatcherite UK, our society's view of what the richest should earn & pay wildly differs from said socons so I don't agree with that characterisation. 

I could see how it could be left wing too. But I'm just saying, its a social question that is libertarian vs authoritarian, not left vs right. You can vote your conscious, but the test may not take it that way.

Well I've already voted that I agree, but this seems to me a fundamentally collectivist vs individualist question, but anyway...

[DavidB.]

I disagree with this question. People have an "obligation" to live up to their own standards, and within communities there are obviously expectations in regard to people's behavior, but eventually it is up to individuals to decide for themselves whether they want to comply with these expectations (and cope with the consequences of that decision), let alone with the vague "standards" of "society" (whatever that even means). That is the right individuals have in a free country.

[Intell]

Agree, when you live in a society you have an obligation to follow the society norms, traditions and standards, this is an un-told but should be followed social contract of the society you live in,there are exceptions though.

[Mr. Smith]

Agree

[Sumner 1868]

Strongly Disagree. The whole notion that traditions and "standards" are inherently good and must be followed baffles me. Nobody should be made to conform into what they believe wrong.

[Figueira]

It depends on what society's standards are. Under the current standards that people should have "normal" lives, dress in a certain way, follow a certain set of religions (may be wide or narrow depending on who you're talking to and where you are), have views within the Overton window, etc., then I would disagree. But obviously there are certain standards people should follow (e.g. don't murder people, don't destroy the environment, don't be racist, etc.).

[Goldwater]

Disagree.

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It depends on what society's standards are. Under the current standards that people should have "normal" lives, dress in a certain way, follow a certain set of religions (may be wide or narrow depending on who you're talking to and where you are), have views within the Overton window, etc., then I would disagree. But obviously there are certain standards people should follow (e.g. don't murder people, don't destroy the environment, don't be racist, etc.).

But that's a personal moral code surely? I think the idea that people are only stopped from murdering people because they don't want societal shaming deeply cynical, tbh.

[Torie]

Unless the word "standards" is a synonym for "laws," the answer is of course not.

[Figueira]

It depends on what society's standards are. Under the current standards that people should have "normal" lives, dress in a certain way, follow a certain set of religions (may be wide or narrow depending on who you're talking to and where you are), have views within the Overton window, etc., then I would disagree. But obviously there are certain standards people should follow (e.g. don't murder people, don't destroy the environment, don't be racist, etc.).

But that's a personal moral code surely? I think the idea that people are only stopped from murdering people because they don't want societal shaming deeply cynical, tbh.

Good point. I guess I'll vote "Disagree." I might vote "Strongly Disagree" if the question was worded better.