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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: October 20, 2015, 10:53:26 AM »

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/656496291338391552

Hillary's back up in New Hampshire- 41% to 33% Sanders, 11% Biden, 4% O'Malley, 2% Chafee/Webb

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/10/clinton-reclaims-nh-lead-trump-still-up-big.html

Clinton's net favorability has improved 18 pts in New Hampshire since August. Was +38 (63/25), now +56 (73/17)
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2015, 10:54:57 AM »

Yes, she'll is really working it now. New Hampshire was Sanders' best bet, without winning it, his campaign stalls.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2015, 10:56:50 AM »

And people thought that Bernie was going to be permanently ahead in New Hampshire. If we've been taught nothing, it is that the situation in New Hampshire changes constantly up until primary day.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2015, 10:58:57 AM »

Dems

Clinton 41%
Sanders 33%
Biden 11%
O’Malley 4%
Chafee 2%
Webb 2%
Lessig 0%

GOP

Trump 28%
Rubio 12%
Carson 11%
Kasich 10%
Bush 9%
Cruz 8%
Fiorina 7%
Paul 4%
Christie 3%
Santorum 2%
Graham 1%
Huckabee 1%
Jindal 1%
Pataki 1%
Gilmore 0%

Poll conducted Oct. 16-18.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2015, 11:05:08 AM »

It's surprising that Kasich is still holding that well in NH.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2015, 11:05:35 AM »

No Biden:

Clinton 45
Sanders 35


Who Dems want as the R Nominee:

Kasich 22
Trump 17
Bush 10
Christie 7
Fiorina 7
Carson 5
Cruz 5
Rubio 5
Paul 4

Who Reps want as the Dem nominee:

Biden 20
Sanders 20
Webb 16
Clinton 9
O'Malley 8
Chafee 7
Lessig 1
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2015, 11:10:30 AM »

Two interesting things for me:

1) Though Webb is somewhat popular among Republicans (most primary moderates are with the other party DURING the primaries ... I even remember Republicans defending Hillary in '08), he's far outnumbered by those who'd want Biden and even Sanders.

2) Though Trump still leads comfortably, Rubio+Bush+Kasich (three candidates who certainly all won't be in by the end and whose supporters likely won't flock to Trump) outnumber him.  It seems the "establishment vote" is the divided one for once.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2015, 11:29:16 AM »

Boston Herald shows the exact opposite. Remember that PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2015, 11:42:53 AM »

PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.
Source?
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2015, 11:46:01 AM »

Women voters are key to helping CLINTON and she has what it yakes to win them over again since 2008.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2015, 12:37:40 PM »

Yes, she'll is really working it now. New Hampshire was Sanders' best bet, without winning it, his campaign stalls.

Unless he wins IA. Stranger things have happened this cycle.
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2015, 01:17:17 PM »


Come on, really?
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2015, 01:27:55 PM »

Who Dems want as the R Nominee:

Kasich 22
Trump 17
Bush 10
Christie 7
Fiorina 7
Carson 5

Who Reps want as the Dem nominee:

Biden 20
Sanders 20
Webb 16
Clinton 9
O'Malley 8
Chafee 7

Seems like Democrats are fearing Carson, while Republicans are fearing Clinton. Makes sense to me.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2015, 01:32:04 PM »

Boston Herald shows the exact opposite. Remember that PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.

2 of the last 3 NH post debate polls show Clinton leading, so no.  Combine with the barrage of national polls as of late.  The most likely is Clinton ahead and or she is tie with Sanders in NH.  Sanders is not leading.  The other 2 polls have Biden at 11.  Franklin Pierce almost double that #s for Biden.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-new-hampshire-presidential-democratic-caucus
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2015, 01:38:01 PM »

Boston Herald shows the exact opposite. Remember that PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.

2 of the last 3 NH post debate polls show Clinton leading, so no.  Combine with the barrage of national polls as of late.  The most likely is Clinton ahead and or she is tie with Sanders in NH.  Sanders is not leading.  The other 2 polls have Biden at 11.  Franklin Pierce almost double that #s for Biden.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-new-hampshire-presidential-democratic-caucus

Uh huh, I like how your analysis is based on a total of three polls while disregarding every other poll before that. The Boston Herald poll is in line with what most pollsters have shown in New Hampshire, certainly much more in line than this PPP (D) poll is.
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2015, 01:43:06 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2015, 01:45:35 PM by weixiaobao »

Boston Herald shows the exact opposite. Remember that PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.

2 of the last 3 NH post debate polls show Clinton leading, so no.  Combine with the barrage of national polls as of late.  The most likely is Clinton ahead and or she is tie with Sanders in NH.  Sanders is not leading.  The other 2 polls have Biden at 11.  Franklin Pierce almost double that #s for Biden.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-new-hampshire-presidential-democratic-caucus

Uh huh, I like how your analysis is based on a total of three polls while disregarding every other poll before that. The Boston Herald poll is in line with what most pollsters have shown in New Hampshire, certainly much more in line than this PPP (D) poll is.

The forum acted out on me.

So you gonna ignore the debate happen.  Are you seriously go there??

Where was Carson and Fiorina before the first debate?  Where were they immediately after the first debate?  Nationally, Iowa, and New Hampshire.

You know what.  You win.  Sanders is leading huge.  Everywhere.

I ain't here to debate with you.  I stated facts.  If you don't like facts about polls post debate then fine.  Believe whatever you want in this very dynamic race in your anti science way.

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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2015, 01:50:55 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2015, 01:53:04 PM by weixiaobao »

Also be principle, don't play the game of this poll I like so it is awesome.  Other polls, I don't like, they are bias.  They had a horse in the race.  They got paid off.

If you gonna make those charges, then show the proof.  This ain't like the Club for Growth's poll on Trump declining.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/ppp-d-22607

I guess this August PPP poll where Sanders ahead is when they haven't been bought by Clinton yet.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2015, 02:25:42 PM »

I didn't know Bernie Sanders was employing Chinese spambots.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2015, 02:36:30 PM »

I didn't know Bernie Sanders was employing Chinese spambots.

He's actually pro-Clinton, I think.

"The forum acted out on me". I wonder what he means by that?
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2015, 02:58:51 PM »

I didn't know Bernie Sanders was employing Chinese spambots.

He's actually pro-Clinton, I think.

"The forum acted out on me". I wonder what he means by that?

Throwing him into a volcano and such.
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2015, 03:03:06 PM »

Boston Herald shows the exact opposite. Remember that PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.

PPP should try to keep their trolling for Hillary believable.
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2015, 03:34:45 PM »

Boston Herald shows the exact opposite. Remember that PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.

PPP should try to keep their trolling for Hillary believable.

Oh look, Democrats got their own unskewing crowd.
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2015, 04:20:20 PM »

Boston Herald shows the exact opposite. Remember that PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.

PPP should try to keep their trolling for Hillary believable.

Oh look, Democrats got their own unskewing crowd.

Look at the polls, this is just an outlier.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-new-hampshire-presidential-democratic-caucus
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2015, 04:25:52 PM »

Who Dems want as the R Nominee:

Kasich 22
Trump 17
Bush 10
Christie 7
Fiorina 7
Carson 5

Who Reps want as the Dem nominee:

Biden 20
Sanders 20
Webb 16
Clinton 9
O'Malley 8
Chafee 7

Seems like Democrats are fearing Carson, while Republicans are fearing Clinton. Makes sense to me.

Well, fear them as president not their electability (which most aren't tracking). Democrats just don't like Carson because they view him as a socially conservative extremist. Republicans dislike Hillary the most because she's been the most frequent target in their media.
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2015, 04:43:33 PM »

Boston Herald shows the exact opposite. Remember that PPP has a dog in this fight and it isn't Sanders.

PPP should try to keep their trolling for Hillary believable.

Oh look, Democrats got their own unskewing crowd.

Look at the polls, this is just an outlier.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-new-hampshire-presidential-democratic-caucus

To call it an outlier we need more post debate polls for New Hampshire. At this point, it's highly conceivable that Clinton got a boost after a great debate performance.
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