Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[RogueBeaver]

First Minister approval ratings: Justin leads at 65%, McLauchlin, Pallister and Wall are the most popular premiers.

[MaxQue]

The murderous cult of "Jehovah' Witnesses" killed someone else by denial of blood transfusion, yet no government is ready to take action.

[DC Al Fine]

The murderous cult of "Jehovah' Witnesses" killed someone else by denial of blood transfusion, yet no government is ready to take action.

Ok I'll bite. What is 'action' in your mind?

[MaxQue]

The murderous cult of "Jehovah' Witnesses" killed someone else by denial of blood transfusion, yet no government is ready to take action.

Ok I'll bite. What is 'action' in your mind?

Require written authorization for denial of blood transfusion.

[DC Al Fine]

The murderous cult of "Jehovah' Witnesses" killed someone else by denial of blood transfusion, yet no government is ready to take action.

Ok I'll bite. What is 'action' in your mind?

Require written authorization for denial of blood transfusion.

You mean like this?

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[MaxQue]

The murderous cult of "Jehovah' Witnesses" killed someone else by denial of blood transfusion, yet no government is ready to take action.

Ok I'll bite. What is 'action' in your mind?

Require written authorization for denial of blood transfusion.

You mean like this?

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There was a second case this week, where the husband pretended such paperwork was filled too, but nobody can find it.

And, in any case, representatives of religious organisations have no business in an hospital.

[DC Al Fine]

The murderous cult of "Jehovah' Witnesses" killed someone else by denial of blood transfusion, yet no government is ready to take action.

Ok I'll bite. What is 'action' in your mind?

Require written authorization for denial of blood transfusion.

You mean like this?

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There was a second case this week, where the husband pretended such paperwork was filled too, but nobody can find it.

And, in any case, representatives of religious organisations have no business in an hospital.

Of course. Prayers for the dying are sooooo passe

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

There was a second case this week, where the husband pretended such paperwork was filled too, but nobody can find it.

Reprehensible if true.

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You can't be serious.

[MaxQue]

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You can't be serious.

I'm not talking of prayers or last services for dying people, but in this case, their goal is clearly is not to support the family, but to frighten people in renouncing their freedom of choice and doing as the sect decided ("do as we, or we will report on it and exclude you"). That's pure coercision and that should be clearly banned in hospitals.

[politicallefty]

This may seem like an odd diversion, but what ever happened with the proposed Quebec provincial NDP? There seems to be a huge void for left-wing federalists that could easily be fulfilled by a strong NPDQ.

[MaxQue]

This may seem like an odd diversion, but what ever happened with the proposed Quebec provincial NDP? There seems to be a huge void for left-wing federalists that could easily be fulfilled by a strong NPDQ.

They announced on October 12 that they are going forward with the idea, there will be a convention in Fall 2017 to elect a permanent leader and adopt a platform.

[RogueBeaver]

Joe Oliver will run provincially in York Centre. Won't happen, but would be amusing to see him as finance minister at both levels of government.

[RogueBeaver]

Justin hints at TPP ratification.

[DC Al Fine]

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You can't be serious.

I'm not talking of prayers or last services for dying people, but in this case, their goal is clearly is not to support the family, but to frighten people in renouncing their freedom of choice and doing as the sect decided ("do as we, or we will report on it and exclude you"). That's pure coercision and that should be clearly banned in hospitals.

What's that saying? One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

Pro-lifers often complain of pressure to abort babies with disabilities and they are relatively accepted. Jehovah's Witnesses are an unpopular minority, who take a highly unusual approach to medicine. Its quite plausible that they may feel pressure to go against their religion and would want aid to ensure their Charter rights are protected.

[King of Kensington]

Joe Oliver will run provincially in York Centre. Won't happen, but would be amusing to see him as finance minister at both levels of government.

Some "young blood" to replace Monte Kwinter!

[RogueBeaver]

More hints that Justin may punt on electoral reform.

[King of Kensington]

Kwinter, 85, says he plans to run again.  Kwinter has been recovering from an illness though, and presumably Oliver (who is 76) is planning to run for the PCs in York Centre because they think Kwinter may not finish his term.

http://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/ex-federal-finance-minister-oliver-seeks-provincial-nod-in-york-centre

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/17/mpp-absence-not-unprecedented

[DC Al Fine]

How big is Kwinter's personal vote? Would he be a decent pick for an unexpected holdout against a Tory majority if he wins again?

[King of Kensington]

Hard to say.  I suspect a lot of his hard core supporters over the years have died of old age.   

[RogueBeaver]

Economy grew by 0.2% in August.

What to expect from this afternoon's econ update.

Feds will sharply reduce use of mandatory minimums.

[RogueBeaver]

Econ update: financial position deteriorating, more red ink will gush.

[DC Al Fine]

British Columbia Court of Appeal has ruled in favour of Trinity Western University and against the Law Society of B.C.'s attempt to deny TWU's law accreditation.

[DC Al Fine]

Econ update: financial position deteriorating, more red ink will gush.

Colour me surprised

I will now drink ruefully... well not really because it's 8am but you get my drift.

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Econ update: financial position deteriorating, more red ink will gush.

this links to an article on the election in Yukon

[King of Kensington]

I started a thread on the Ontario 2018 election:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250768.0