Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[DC Al Fine]

Joe Oliver has lost the York Centre PC nomination. So far Calandra's the only former MP to secure a PC nomination.

Didn't Daryl Kramp win his nomination? Or am I misremembering that?

[RogueBeaver]

Joe Oliver has lost the York Centre PC nomination. So far Calandra's the only former MP to secure a PC nomination.

Didn't Daryl Kramp win his nomination? Or am I misremembering that?

Oh yeah. Still Truppe and Gill left.

[King of Kensington]

Joe Oliver has lost the York Centre PC nomination.

The guy he lost to is probably 50 years younger than him.

[RogueBeaver]

VCDS Norman relieved for leaking highly classified info, destination unclear.

KoK: He's 36, but who's counting?

[RogueBeaver]

Free trade talks with China start next month.

[ag]

Free trade talks with China start next month.

Great news!

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Free trade talks with China start next month.

Madness.

[Intell]

Free trade talks with China start next month.

Yuhh! God Awful, but he's an awful neoliberal so what can you can expect.

[RogueBeaver]

Central to NAFTA renegotiation: rules of origin and independent dispute tribunals.

[RogueBeaver]

Relationship with Trump is going OK, but we're upping defence spending and might be cancelling the Africa mission as goodwill gestures.

[RogueBeaver]

Keystone has been approved and Justin will be meeting Trump soon.

Democracy survey results have just been released, conclusions further my suspicion that they're planning their own FEA & will call that a day on "reform."

[2952-0-0]

Kevin O'Leary is now the landslide frontrunner: http://poll.forumresearch.com/data/5c0ebf22-45a0-488e-929f-f8579ccbdd67FED_Conservative_Leadership_(012217).pdf

[Hatman 🍁]

I know it's impossible to poll leadership elections but... this is actually happening, isn't it?

[2952-0-0]

On the bright side, at least Kellie Leitch has crashed back to joke status. We've dodged a bullet - for now.

[RogueBeaver]

Internal trade deal reached.

Polling: Nanos has E-Day numbers & Forum 42/36/12, Grits +5 in BC, +21 here & +2 in ON.

[MaxQue]

Internal trade deal reached.

Polling: Nanos has E-Day numbers & Forum 42/36/12, Grits +5 in BC, +21 here & +2 in ON.

I somehow doubt a poll which has Lib+2 in Ontario and NDP on 13% in Quebec.

[RogueBeaver]

Don Martin predicts electoral reform will be formally interred within 2 weeks.

Wynne will veto Tory's plan for DVP/Gardiner tolls.

Whoa: Brian Jean would be willing to step aside as Wildrose leader & run for leader of a hypothetical CPA *this summer*.

[2952-0-0]

Ah, so the Liberal honeymoon has finally ended. Most of their loss has been to the Conservatives. They'll need to make real accomplishments (the internal trade deal helps, maybe they should start Harper-style national propaganda campaign), and hope O'Leary wins the CPC leadership. They probably already have hours of attack ad footage ready to air.

[RogueBeaver]

Justin will open up his fundraisers.

[Lachi]

Ah, so the Liberal honeymoon has finally ended. Most of their loss has been to the Conservatives. They'll need to make real accomplishments (the internal trade deal helps, maybe they should start Harper-style national propaganda campaign), and hope O'Leary wins the CPC leadership. They probably already have hours of attack ad footage ready to air.

Anything harper-style would be suicide for the Conservatives.

[Boston Bread]

Ah, so the Liberal honeymoon has finally ended. Most of their loss has been to the Conservatives. They'll need to make real accomplishments (the internal trade deal helps, maybe they should start Harper-style national propaganda campaign), and hope O'Leary wins the CPC leadership. They probably already have hours of attack ad footage ready to air.

I believe a recent poll showed O'Leary is the most electable candidate, while Bernier and Leitch did poorly.

[DC Al Fine]

Ah, so the Liberal honeymoon has finally ended. Most of their loss has been to the Conservatives. They'll need to make real accomplishments (the internal trade deal helps, maybe they should start Harper-style national propaganda campaign), and hope O'Leary wins the CPC leadership. They probably already have hours of attack ad footage ready to air.

I believe a recent poll showed O'Leary is the most electable candidate, while Bernier and Leitch did poorly.

Most electable or highest name recognition? A lot of those polls are effectively the latter.

[Boston Bread]

Ah, so the Liberal honeymoon has finally ended. Most of their loss has been to the Conservatives. They'll need to make real accomplishments (the internal trade deal helps, maybe they should start Harper-style national propaganda campaign), and hope O'Leary wins the CPC leadership. They probably already have hours of attack ad footage ready to air.

I believe a recent poll showed O'Leary is the most electable candidate, while Bernier and Leitch did poorly.

Most electable or highest name recognition? A lot of those polls are effectively the latter.

This is what I'm referring to. http://globalnews.ca/news/3207501/kevin-oleary-justin-trudeau-conservative-leadership-race-poll/?sf52910041=1

It could be just name recognization, but 37% for O'Leary and 26% for Leitch is a big difference.

[RogueBeaver]

Justin will meet Trump soon, perhaps as early as this week.

[2952-0-0]

Ah, so the Liberal honeymoon has finally ended. Most of their loss has been to the Conservatives. They'll need to make real accomplishments (the internal trade deal helps, maybe they should start Harper-style national propaganda campaign), and hope O'Leary wins the CPC leadership. They probably already have hours of attack ad footage ready to air.

I believe a recent poll showed O'Leary is the most electable candidate, while Bernier and Leitch did poorly.

Most electable or highest name recognition? A lot of those polls are effectively the latter.

This is what I'm referring to. http://globalnews.ca/news/3207501/kevin-oleary-justin-trudeau-conservative-leadership-race-poll/?sf52910041=1

It could be just name recognization, but 37% for O'Leary and 26% for Leitch is a big difference.

It's a yuuge difference. It's the difference between being on the cusp of government and facing an existential crisis.

That said, O'Leary has tied himself to something he has absolutely no control over. The Liberals will be able to run not just against O'Leary's douchey behaviour, but against three years of the Trump Administration (assuming by then the Trump Administration hasn't already ended or is so weakened they are no longer fearful of bashing him).

Very good to see Kellie Leitch failing in both the leadership race and the general election poll.