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Question: Does uniting the right in Alberta mean the NDP is toast next election?
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Absolutely they are done like dinner
 
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NDP still might win, but will be a steep hill to climb
 
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NDP will likely win, UCP too extreme
 
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NDP will definitely win
 
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« Reply #150 on: January 24, 2016, 09:24:51 AM »

Denis Coderre: First of all, you have to allow me a moment to laugh at a guy like Brian Jean, when he says he relies on science. These are probably the same people who think the Flintstones is a documentary..

Since when did Coderre hire Warren Kinsella as an adviser?

Jean: I'm not going to take environmental lessons from a mayor that will release eight billion litres of raw sewage into the river right in front of his community

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« Reply #151 on: January 24, 2016, 10:53:58 AM »
« Edited: January 24, 2016, 10:58:55 AM by Adam T »


Even leaving out the people who believe in the literal word of the Bible for which there is zero evidence for, according to studies virtually every single person believes at least a few weird things.

Just because this woman is more open about her views does not necessarily make her any stranger than anybody else and should not be an automatic disqualification.

If right wingers can be criticized for harbouring creationists, it is perfectly reasonable to pick on lefties for harbouring hippy dippy types.

1.In any federal election there are always a fair number of Conservatives candidates with publicly stated religious views and I've never heard anybody say they shouldn't be allowed to run if some of those might be odd.

2.I never heard any demands on Stephen Harper to resign as Conservative leader when he signed a party fundraising letter (or more likely an automatic pen signed his name to it, but he's still responsible for it) that called Kyoto 'a socialist scheme.'

3.Most people refer to them as 'new agers' not 'hippy dippy types.'  I don't care for 'new age' thinking myself, but I tend to find that most people who hold these views are no more or less rational than anybody else on other things.  So, just because she has odd views in these areas does not automatically prove she is unable to choose people who would make capable senators as per Justin Trudeau's definition of 'capable.'

Also, unlike an M.P who vote on issues where their beliefs that the earth is 6,000 years old or something may influence their votes, I fail to see how this woman's 'new age' beliefs could effect her very limited role of helping to choose 'capable non partisan upstanding Canadians' as senators.
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« Reply #152 on: January 24, 2016, 11:05:36 AM »

Elementary school shooting in SK, 5 dead, 2 wounded.

The new NDP M.P,  for the riding where this terrible incident occurred, Georgina Jolibois, was previously the mayor of the town where it occurred (La Loche.)  Hopefully she can provide some insight to the government.
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« Reply #153 on: January 25, 2016, 12:21:37 PM »


Even leaving out the people who believe in the literal word of the Bible for which there is zero evidence for, according to studies virtually every single person believes at least a few weird things.

Just because this woman is more open about her views does not necessarily make her any stranger than anybody else and should not be an automatic disqualification.

If right wingers can be criticized for harbouring creationists, it is perfectly reasonable to pick on lefties for harbouring hippy dippy types.

1.In any federal election there are always a fair number of Conservatives candidates with publicly stated religious views and I've never heard anybody say they shouldn't be allowed to run if some of those might be odd.

2.I never heard any demands on Stephen Harper to resign as Conservative leader when he signed a party fundraising letter (or more likely an automatic pen signed his name to it, but he's still responsible for it) that called Kyoto 'a socialist scheme.'

3.Most people refer to them as 'new agers' not 'hippy dippy types.'  I don't care for 'new age' thinking myself, but I tend to find that most people who hold these views are no more or less rational than anybody else on other things.  So, just because she has odd views in these areas does not automatically prove she is unable to choose people who would make capable senators as per Justin Trudeau's definition of 'capable.'

Also, unlike an M.P who vote on issues where their beliefs that the earth is 6,000 years old or something may influence their votes, I fail to see how this woman's 'new age' beliefs could effect her very limited role of helping to choose 'capable non partisan upstanding Canadians' as senators.

You're missing the point and reading far too much into my comment Adam.
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« Reply #154 on: January 25, 2016, 12:22:15 PM »

In other news Peter MacKay has taken a job with a Bay street law firm.
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« Reply #155 on: January 26, 2016, 03:57:41 PM »

Iranian sanctions will be lifted.

DC: Hilarious thing is that Kinsella agrees with Jean, not Coderre.

PKP and Snyder have split again. Been intermittent for 15 years.
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« Reply #156 on: January 26, 2016, 04:05:11 PM »

Labeaume (Quebec City's mayor) is neutral on Energy East, saying he is for pipelines in general, but saying than Transcanada is incompetent.
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« Reply #157 on: January 27, 2016, 04:41:22 AM »

Labeaume (Quebec City's mayor) is neutral on Energy East, saying he is for pipelines in general, but saying than Transcanada is incompetent.

This is the position I've been posting on Twitter and in news stories. I told Michelle Rempel that she shouldn't be a cheerleader for a private corporation and got a typical juvenile response from her (the Captain Pickard holding his head in frustration picture.)

There was a major CBC expose in 2011 of how either the government or civil servants in the government had covered up evidence of poor practices at TransCanada Pipelines.

I'm not surprised that idiot Terry Glavin is a mindless proponent of Energy East, but I was surprised both Lawrence Martin and even Rick Mercer support the Energy East as if this is a public work project and not a project that will primarily benefit for-profit corporations.

Andew Coyne seemed to be unhappy the government position is to wait for the NEB process to unfold and wants the Liberals to prejudge their report.

I don't think TransCanada is incompetent as much as they put short term profits ahead of long term interests, both their own long term interests and societal long term interests.

I'd support Energy East if all the senior executives and directors at TransCanada were fired.
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« Reply #158 on: January 27, 2016, 07:04:55 PM »

Justin's meeting Notley next week, and there will be an environmental First Ministers Conference in March.
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« Reply #159 on: January 29, 2016, 10:33:56 PM »

Still think Mulcair survives.
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« Reply #160 on: February 01, 2016, 08:10:09 AM »

Feds still studying the sharing economy.

Kuwaiti arms deal going ahead.
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« Reply #161 on: February 06, 2016, 05:58:28 PM »

New Alberta provincial poll from Mainstreet:

Decided voters:
WRP: 33%
PC: 31%
NDP: 27%
ALP: 5%
AP: 4%
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« Reply #162 on: February 06, 2016, 05:59:46 PM »

Necromancy is in the air.
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« Reply #163 on: February 08, 2016, 09:28:04 AM »

Law enforcement concerned about chaos over pot legalization.

Citizenship Act overhaul, including language requirement elimination, inbound.


Agreed.
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« Reply #164 on: February 11, 2016, 10:29:29 AM »

What chances do the NDP have to get re-elected with these numbers?
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« Reply #165 on: February 11, 2016, 02:23:06 PM »

What chances do the NDP have to get re-elected with these numbers?

Probably not great,  especially as their support is concentrated in the Edmonton region, but given that the next Alberta election isn't for a little more than three years, I'd say your question is a little premature.
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« Reply #166 on: February 12, 2016, 05:12:38 PM »

What chances do the NDP have to get re-elected with these numbers?

Probably not great,  especially as their support is concentrated in the Edmonton region, but given that the next Alberta election isn't for a little more than three years, I'd say your question is a little premature.

^Pretty much that.  The poll still shows the NDP at nearly 50% in Edmonton, so they could still easily win 18-25 seats in the greater Edmonton areas, but beyond that, their prospects would be pretty bleak.   
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« Reply #167 on: February 13, 2016, 09:19:27 AM »

Agreed with Hébert, Coyne and Simpson.
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« Reply #168 on: February 18, 2016, 07:48:27 AM »

Ottawa looking to ink a carbon pricing deal with the provinces.


TFW program being reviewed.


GIS being upped.
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« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2016, 08:05:38 AM »

Forum: 49/32/10. Unfortunately, I doubt we see Grit Inc. style results for anyone in the foreseeable future.

Not dangerous but interesting.

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« Reply #170 on: February 22, 2016, 08:02:30 AM »

Morneau will release updated numbers this week, and Brison will table the estimates.

Wynne apologizing for Regulation 17 today.
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« Reply #171 on: February 23, 2016, 07:40:35 AM »

Hébert on the budget.

Alberta to get $250M.
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« Reply #172 on: February 24, 2016, 12:31:12 AM »


My prediction:  Mulcair gets 81% at leadership review.
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« Reply #173 on: February 26, 2016, 08:48:37 AM »

Don Getty has died at 82.
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« Reply #174 on: February 28, 2016, 08:06:29 AM »

Gary Burrill has been elected Nova Scotia NDP leader. Bit of a throwback pick since he's a hardline socialist from the religious left.
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