Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[Hatman 🍁]

good policy, but very unpopular.

[RogueBeaver]

So things got spicy on the House floor today.

[Vega]

So things got spicy on the House floor today.

As concerning as it is that Justin thinks he can manhandle MPs, it's not like he intended for that to happen.

[RogueBeaver]

Brosseau no. The rest yes. Bouncer's instinct I guess. Context is impending guillotine on euthanasia & other bills.

[Famous Mortimer]

I generally really like Brosseau and Ashton but God, they both came out of this looking stupid. Brosseau with her "omg someone grazed me while walking through a crowd, I had to leave the room and cry about it!" and Ashton with her "women need to feel safe!" speech. How don't women feel safe? Does she think Trudeau is going to rape someone in the House of Commons?

[DC Al Fine]

So things got spicy on the House floor today.

Well it's good to know Trudeau is still prone to saying and doing silly things. This incident won't move many votes but the pattern hopefully might in four years.

Also, what is Trudeau doing that for? He has backbenchers for these tasks

[Blair]

In all fairness I judge an MP by the number of House of Commons fights they've gotten into

[RogueBeaver]

In more important news, the NEB has conditionally approved Trans Mountain.

[SATW]

I generally really like Brosseau and Ashton but God, they both came out of this looking stupid. Brosseau with her "omg someone grazed me while walking through a crowd, I had to leave the room and cry about it!" and Ashton with her "women need to feel safe!" speech. How don't women feel safe? Does she think Trudeau is going to rape someone in the House of Commons?

No, she expects the Prime Minister not to act like a thug on the floor of Parliament. Clearly, he didn't mean to hit her on purpose, but his actions leading up to it were just as disturbing and were directly responsible for the incident that followed.

  I have said  a few times already to some of my friends who follow Canadian Politics...Trudeau makes both President Barack Obama and President Enrique Pena Nieto look like statesmen. #TrudeauIsTruTrash

[Holmes]

I mean, I don't care anymore, really they're all horrible and I don't even live there anymore, but it's fun watching people trip over themselves to proclaim that Trudeau is this big feminist icon that must be protected while attacking and denouncing the actual woman that was involved in this altercation.

But he's a man so it's all good.

[RogueBeaver]

Harper will quit Parliament before fall, will sit on corporate boards and involve himself in the foreign policy world.

Tories prepping for this weekend's convention.

Wynne planning a Cabinet overhaul after the Leg adjourns in a couple of weeks.

Premier approval ratings.

[DavidB.]

Since the general election I haven't payed much attention to Canadian politics, but I understand the Liberals are riding high in the polls. Are they really so popular, or is it just that there is no alternative because the PC and the NDP don't know what they want and who they are? And could anyone update me on what has happened policy-wise since Trudeau took office?

[DC Al Fine]

Since the general election I haven't payed much attention to Canadian politics, but I understand the Liberals are riding high in the polls. Are they really so popular, or is it just that there is no alternative because the PC and the NDP don't know what they want and who they are? And could anyone update me on what has happened policy-wise since Trudeau took office?

Trudeau is quite popular. Obviously there are factions that don't like him (conservatives, socialists, separatists), but he has managed to own the 'promiscuous progressive' demographic. The NDP have struggled to differentiate themselves from the Liberals and are languishing at 1990's levels of support and Thomas Mulcair lost a non-confidence motion at NDP's convention this spring. The Tories still have their ~30% base.  I suspect the polls will stay this way until the Tories and NDP pick new leaders.

Policy wise, some of the more salient points are:
1) Cutting taxes for the $45,000-$90,000 tax bracket and adding a new bracket for incomes over $200,000
2) Expanding child benefits, and removing the universal component to make the program 100% income based
3) Legalizing marijuana
4) An assisted suicide bill which legalizes the practice but is still relatively restrictive.
5) Running a $30 billion deficit instead of the promised $10 billion.
6) Early, early stages of electoral reform (still probably not going to happen)

[DavidB.]

Thanks! But many of these things have not been implemented yet, right?

[DC Al Fine]

Thanks! But many of these things have not been implemented yet, right?

The taxes, deficit, and child benefits have all been implemented. Assisted suicide is working its way through parliament. Marijuana legalization and electoral reform have yet to be introduced as bills in parliament.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Quebec provincial election poll-May 23rd
CROP Poll
Liberal-34%
Coalition Avenir Québec-27%
Parti Québécois-26%
Québec solidaire-11%
Other-3%

http://static.lpcdn.ca/fichiers/html/2508/CROP_-_Course_au_PQ.pdf

[DC Al Fine]

Defeated MLA Keith Bain has won the Tory nomination in Victoria-The Lakes. Bain served two terms before being defeated by Pam Eyking, wife of Liberal MP Mark Eyking

[RogueBeaver]

Wildrose attacks Wynne's policies to her face when she was Notley's gallery guest this week. Lead attacker suspended from caucus for another reason.

[RogueBeaver]

Tories drop opposition to SSM, Grits adopt a new party constitution.

[DC Al Fine]

The several municipalities in Pictou County (Peter MacKay's home county), with a combined population of 45k have rejected amalgamation in a referendum.

Hatman is likely pleased. I am not

[Hatman 🍁]

The several municipalities in Pictou County (Peter MacKay's home county), with a combined population of 45k have rejected amalgamation in a referendum.

Hatman is likely pleased. I am not

Woohoo! You have to admit, it has gotten pretty ridiculous in Nova Scotia. Pretty soon the whole province will be one municipality!

[Hatman 🍁]

New Glasgow supported the merger, but the other three municipalities did not. The Town of Pictou was very divided, the western ward supported it 54-46 but the eastern ward did not (58% no).  Results: http://munpict.ca/images/elections_images/may28_2016results.pdf

[MaxQue]

New Glasgow supported the merger, but the other three municipalities did not. The Town of Pictou was very divided, the western ward supported it 54-46 but the eastern ward did not (58% no).  Results: http://munpict.ca/images/elections_images/may28_2016results.pdf

Page 3 is saying that Yes got 44% and no 66%, so, I wouldn't trust them.

[RogueBeaver]

Whoa: Tootoo is leaving Cabinet and the Grit caucus to seek addiction treatment. Best of luck to him. 3rd in recent years after Saganash and O'Regan.

[Linus Van Pelt]

Whoa: Tootoo is leaving Cabinet and the Grit caucus to seek addiction treatment. Best of luck to him.

Stepping down from cabinet I understand - but leaving the caucus, to sit as an independent, for addiction treatment? That seems weird. I would not be surprised at all if there turns out to be more to this than has been announced.