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« Reply #525 on: August 11, 2016, 10:32:38 AM »

Elizabeth May is considering resigning as Leader of the Greens.
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« Reply #526 on: August 11, 2016, 01:39:44 PM »

I think it's important to know that Justin hasn't just been camping shirtless and abusing MPs, he has gotten things done that were in the Liberal platform.
Yeah but the way CBC fawns over him is similar to how Russia today  covers Putin lol

Please leave.
It's a hyperbole lol
Still, please show yourself out of this thread.

Why does he need to do that?
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« Reply #527 on: August 12, 2016, 12:03:39 AM »

I think it's important to know that Justin hasn't just been camping shirtless and abusing MPs, he has gotten things done that were in the Liberal platform.
Yeah but the way CBC fawns over him is similar to how Russia today  covers Putin lol

Please leave.
It's a hyperbole lol
Still, please show yourself out of this thread.

Why does he need to do that?
Because you, him and others are ruining the commentary which was taking place in the damn thread.
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« Reply #528 on: August 12, 2016, 01:45:33 AM »

Do the Greens have anybody even remotely notable besides Elizabeth May?
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« Reply #529 on: August 12, 2016, 04:39:06 AM »

Do the Greens have anybody even remotely notable besides Elizabeth May?

They've elected a couple MLA's who are semi-prominent.
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« Reply #530 on: August 12, 2016, 08:20:04 AM »

Do the Greens have anybody even remotely notable besides Elizabeth May?

They've elected a couple MLA's who are semi-prominent.

In otherwords, no.
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« Reply #531 on: August 12, 2016, 03:56:17 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2016, 03:58:23 PM by Vega »

I think it's important to remember that Elizabeth May wasn't too widely known when she was first elected leader. It wouldn't surprise me if the Greens picked a relative unknown with some political experience. Gord Miller (former Environmental Commissioner of Ontario) is a likely contender and the kind of person who would likely succeed her. David Chernushenko (Ottawa City Councillor) is another possibility, along with Andrew Weaver (BC MLA and BC Greens Leader).

This is a rather remote possibility, and is speculation, but if May were to have a particularly rocky exit from the leadership, I could see her crossing the floor and joining the Liberals.
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« Reply #532 on: August 12, 2016, 04:20:08 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2016, 06:09:00 PM by RogueBeaver »

Canola dispute threatens to cloud Trudeau's G20 Beijing visit. As for May, she's been Grit-friendly throughout her leadership, especially when Dion was Grit leader. Highly unlikely but not totally impossible.

Immigration levels will be substantially increased from this year's 285-305k target.
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« Reply #533 on: August 14, 2016, 02:56:27 PM »

I think it's important to remember that Elizabeth May wasn't too widely known when she was first elected leader. It wouldn't surprise me if the Greens picked a relative unknown with some political experience. Gord Miller (former Environmental Commissioner of Ontario) is a likely contender and the kind of person who would likely succeed her. David Chernushenko (Ottawa City Councillor) is another possibility, along with Andrew Weaver (BC MLA and BC Greens Leader).

This is a rather remote possibility, and is speculation, but if May were to have a particularly rocky exit from the leadership, I could see her crossing the floor and joining the Liberals.

Chernushenko has been a rather lacklustre city councillor. She probably doesn't speak French, but Adrienne Carr in Vancouver is the strongest Green city councillor in the country.
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« Reply #534 on: August 14, 2016, 03:26:28 PM »

It's not like the Green Party actually exists in Quebec, though.
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« Reply #535 on: August 15, 2016, 09:30:36 AM »

It's not like the Green Party actually exists in Quebec, though.

True, but the leader should at least be able to speak broken French, if they want to participate in t he debates. Only a right wing populist type (e.g. Preston Manning) can get away with not speaking French as leader, as part of their appeal would be not wanting to appease Quebeckers.
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« Reply #536 on: August 16, 2016, 08:36:19 PM »
« Edited: August 16, 2016, 08:43:37 PM by RogueBeaver »

RIP Mauril Belanger. Sad

Delacourt floats the idea that May joins the Grits. Been waiting for this since 2008.
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« Reply #537 on: August 17, 2016, 08:08:35 PM »

It's not like the Green Party actually exists in Quebec, though.

True, but the leader should at least be able to speak broken French, if they want to participate in t he debates. Only a right wing populist type (e.g. Preston Manning) can get away with not speaking French as leader, as part of their appeal would be not wanting to appease Quebeckers.

When Elizabeth May would speak French, which wasn't often, it was astoundingly bad. I tend to think that people are more critical of how Anglophones' fluency in French than vice versa, but still.

But yeah, a Green leader doesn't need to speak French as much as the others do.
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« Reply #538 on: August 18, 2016, 08:17:29 PM »

A new opinion poll for BC today by Innovative Research - a CATI poll (landline/cell) with these results:

BC Lib: 38%
BC NDP: 29%
BC Green: 16%
BC Con: 15
Other: 2%

https://www.scribd.com/document/321630168/Innovative-Research-Group-Survey#from_embed

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« Reply #539 on: August 19, 2016, 12:00:22 AM »
« Edited: August 19, 2016, 12:02:53 AM by Vega »

A new opinion poll for BC today by Innovative Research - a CATI poll (landline/cell) with these results:

BC Lib: 38%
BC NDP: 29%
BC Green: 16%
BC Con: 15
Other: 2%

https://www.scribd.com/document/321630168/Innovative-Research-Group-Survey#from_embed



That's incredibly sad.

Also, it's incredibly interesting that the BC Conservatives are starting to poll somewhat highly (higher than they got in the last elections, at least). I'm really not sure what they would have to run on, though.
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« Reply #540 on: August 19, 2016, 06:25:55 AM »

Meanwhile in Ontario, Tories holding steady at 41/28/23. Really need a Scarborough poll though.

Wells on Philpott's limo bill.
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« Reply #541 on: August 19, 2016, 08:36:42 AM »

A new opinion poll for BC today by Innovative Research - a CATI poll (landline/cell) with these results:

BC Lib: 38%
BC NDP: 29%
BC Green: 16%
BC Con: 15
Other: 2%

https://www.scribd.com/document/321630168/Innovative-Research-Group-Survey#from_embed



That's incredibly sad.

Also, it's incredibly interesting that the BC Conservatives are starting to poll somewhat highly (higher than they got in the last elections, at least). I'm really not sure what they would have to run on, though.

The high Green numbers are hurting the NDP. I suspect come election time, the Green vote will go down as left of centre voters rally behind the NDP in a futile effort to stop the Liberals from winning.

Hopefully if the Liberals do lead for most of the campaign, the Conservative will remain high.
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« Reply #542 on: August 19, 2016, 12:00:48 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2016, 12:37:38 PM by RogueBeaver »

Will Brown recruit the doctors to his cause?

Cabinet shuffle at the top of the hour.
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« Reply #543 on: August 19, 2016, 01:07:32 PM »

Bardish Chagger is now House Leader. Weird to give a rookie that post, but we know NOTHING MATTERS.
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« Reply #544 on: August 19, 2016, 01:13:53 PM »

I'm sure she'll do great!
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« Reply #545 on: August 19, 2016, 06:56:21 PM »

Seems odd that Trudeau/The Liberals has included so many South Asians and no East Asians in his Government. Just something I've noticed.

She worked for Trudeau's 2013 leadership campaign, so the two probably have some sort of personal camaraderie.
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« Reply #546 on: August 20, 2016, 05:50:31 AM »

Seems odd that Trudeau/The Liberals has included so many South Asians and no East Asians in his Government. Just something I've noticed.

She worked for Trudeau's 2013 leadership campaign, so the two probably have some sort of personal camaraderie.

IIRC, heavily East Asian ridings stayed relatively Tory while South Asian ridings swung hard Liberal last time. That has to play a part.
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« Reply #547 on: August 20, 2016, 12:01:22 PM »

Seems odd that Trudeau/The Liberals has included so many South Asians and no East Asians in his Government. Just something I've noticed.

She worked for Trudeau's 2013 leadership campaign, so the two probably have some sort of personal camaraderie.

IIRC, heavily East Asian ridings stayed relatively Tory while South Asian ridings swung hard Liberal last time. That has to play a part.

Yeah, I guess that's the case. The Liberals do have some East Asian MPs, though. I'm sure that had Ted Hsu stayed in Parliament he would have got some sort of Cabinet position dealing with  science/technology.
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« Reply #548 on: August 21, 2016, 07:43:39 PM »

May's decision could come as early as tomorrow.
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« Reply #549 on: August 21, 2016, 08:12:15 PM »

Not really politics (though Trudeau was there) but the Tragically Hip's final concert was quite....lovely?  Didn't quite realize how popular the band was up there.
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