Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[MaxQue]

I think the former is more likely, actually. Hard to see the NDP forming government in this province (not until everyone who was of voting age during the Bob Rae premiership dies off), but making seat gains federally? Not at all unlikely.

Funny the number of people in Ontario who will never vote NDP again due to the Bob Rae government, but hardly anybody seems to hold the Dalton McGuinty government against either the provincial or federal liberals.

Helps have the CBC propaganda machine on its side.

[Poirot]

Would be nice to see a provincial poll come out of Saskatchewan. The budget was very unpopular with both city and rural folk, and I wouldn't be surprised to see if the Sask Party's 30 point victory evaporated into a single digit lead in a poll.

Mainstreet did a post-budget poll.

47% would vote for the Sask Party, 42% NDP. NDP lead in Regina, narrow lead in Saskatoon and Sask dominates outside the cities.

Wall has a 46% approval rating, 45% disapproval.

http://leaderpost.com/news/politics/new-poll-shows-walls-popularity-falls-as-taxes-and-cuts-rise

[Hatman 🍁]

I think the former is more likely, actually. Hard to see the NDP forming government in this province (not until everyone who was of voting age during the Bob Rae premiership dies off), but making seat gains federally? Not at all unlikely.

Funny the number of people in Ontario who will never vote NDP again due to the Bob Rae government, but hardly anybody seems to hold the Dalton McGuinty government against either the provincial or federal liberals.

This is common in many jurisdictions. People hold the NDP to a different standard, because they rarely form government.

Would be nice to see a provincial poll come out of Saskatchewan. The budget was very unpopular with both city and rural folk, and I wouldn't be surprised to see if the Sask Party's 30 point victory evaporated into a single digit lead in a poll.

Mainstreet did a post-budget poll.

47% would vote for the Sask Party, 42% NDP. NDP lead in Regina, narrow lead in Saskatoon and Sask dominates outside the cities.

Wall has a 46% approval rating, 45% disapproval.

http://leaderpost.com/news/politics/new-poll-shows-walls-popularity-falls-as-taxes-and-cuts-rise

Holy sh*tsnacks!

[RogueBeaver]

Postmedia's about to croak.

[RogueBeaver]

Star hints again that Wynne could resign this summer given the Mulroney 1993 situation on her hands. Grit MPPs swarming exits, bad fundraising & internals showing them a distant 3rd.

[DC Al Fine]

Might be an election call in Nova Scotia in the next several weeks. Everyone's running around nominating candidates and the Nova Scotia NDP had their campaign launch despite the fact that an election hasn't been called.

[andrew_c]

Leaked NS Liberal ad suggests election day on May 30.

[RogueBeaver]

Albertan merger talks heating up, agreement might even happen this weekend, but plenty of moving parts. Rempel is considering challenging Nenshi for the Calgary mayoralty.

[RogueBeaver]

Good riddance: Meredith has quit.

[136or142]

Albertan merger talks heating up, agreement might even happen this weekend, but plenty of moving parts. Rempel is considering challenging Nenshi for the Calgary mayoralty.

I like this part of the report on Michelle Rempel
"She has guts. She’s survived the idiots in Ottawa."

I think she is the biggest idiot in Ottawa. A hyper partisan who claims to decry partisan attacks, when not making nasty partisan attacks herself.  She's also an immature air head.

I hope she runs, resigns from Parliament and gets destroyed by Nenshi.  Addition by subtraction.

[2952-0-0]

I hope she runs, resigns from Parliament and gets destroyed by Nenshi.  Addition by subtraction.

You know how this works. She won't resign while campaigning for mayor, and then when she's destroyed she'll say voters gave her a mandate to continue being their voice in Ottawa. It doesn't matter either way because she's in a safe blue seat.

[RogueBeaver]

WHOA: Ambrose quitting politics after the new leader is elected.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

WHOA: Ambrose quitting politics after the new leader is elected.

Jesus, how many actual prominent Harper people are left?

[Boston Bread]

Shocker poll has the OLP leading with 37% to the PCs 34%: http://www.qpbriefing.com/2017/05/17/ontario-liberals-could-be-on-comeback-trail-a-poll-suggests/

[RogueBeaver]

Alberta is about to Unite The Right!

[Njall]

Alberta is about to Unite The Right!

Livestream of Jean and Kenney's remarks here for anyone who's interested

[Santander]

Thank God. Time to end the socialist tyranny.

[Njall]

Alberta is about to Unite The Right!

Some Wildrose figures (Brian Jean, Drew Barnes, Paul Hinman, etc.) are unsure that the agreement will get enough support from their party. For context, the WRP constitution requires 75% of their members to vote in favour of a merger. 

[Kingpoleon]

WHOA: Ambrose quitting politics after the new leader is elected.

Jesus, how many actual prominent Harper people are left?

Rob Nicholson.

[Poirot]

WHOA: Ambrose quitting politics after the new leader is elected.

Jesus, how many actual prominent Harper people are left?

Rob Nicholson.

Tony Clement, Diane Finley

[Kingpoleon]

WHOA: Ambrose quitting politics after the new leader is elected.

Jesus, how many actual prominent Harper people are left?

Rob Nicholson.

Tony Clement, Diane Finley

I would argue Nicholson is the biggest name left.

[DC Al Fine]

How are we defining 'Harper' people? Bernier, Raitt and O'Toole were all in cabinet. So was Chong although he's a different case.

[RogueBeaver]

If he means people in high-profile ministerial/critic roles during the Martin government or Harper's first term.

[RogueBeaver]

We're moving ahead with TPP.

[Poirot]

In Quebec provincial politics, delegates at the meeting of Québec Solidaire voted against an electoral pact with the Parti Québécois. In some ridings only one candidate of the two parties would run to increase chances of winning and defeat the PLQ. Polls showed alliances between opposition parties to be popular among their voters. QS has voted to have talks about a merge with Option Nationale.

The left vote will be split and will be very hard to win. The CAQ polled ahead of the PQ in last week poll and could be seen has the best alternative for those wanting a change in government.

There is an agreement between PQ, QS, Option Nationale and the Bloc on a roadmap for sovereignty in the future. It seems there would be a citizens assembly to write a constitution. I think that was QS that wanted that. QS asked to keep it secret for now. Strange that PQ and QS could work together in the future since QS delegates called it racist and see them as neoliberal like the other parties. Some say QS wants to replace the PQ. I don't see how a more radical party would be more successful.

There was hummus in the lunch at the QS meeting. They removed it because it was from Israel and they persecute Palestinians.