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DINGO Joe
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« on: November 01, 2015, 02:48:43 PM »
« edited: November 01, 2015, 03:01:34 PM by The Unbearable Invicibility of Hillary Clinton »

Throwing this in here because it Canadian:

Last year Saskatchewan unveiled the Boundary Dam CO2 captured power plant.  It was expensive, $1.5B loonies for 110MW of coal generated power (10x the NG CC generation could be built for that price tag), but it is the cutting edge of technology for coal to possibly be environmentally friendly and there was a unique situation were the CO2 could be sold for oil recovery purposes.  The plant won all the "new plant of the year" awards and the Sask government including Premier Bruce Wall touted the plant running at 90% efficiency.  

Unfortunately, that 90% efficiency only refers to when the plant has been running, and due to a myriad of problems the plant has only run 45% of the time in the last year.  90% of 45% means it really capturing 40% of the CO2 it was expect to.  Since there was an agreement to sell the CO2 to an oil company named Cenovus and SaskPower hasn't been able to meet their contractual obligations they have had to pay fines to Cenovus.  

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Lots of other Canadian articles available on the issue.  Looks like there will be lots of lawsuits and pointing of fingers over the various mechanical issues at the plant.  And really, given what is happening in the US at Edwardsport and Kemper, it shouldn't be a surprise that there were problems, though the magnitude and ability to keep problems under wrap for so long is surprising.

The one question I haven't seen asked, given that the government and power executives all say that problems should be expected in the first year of a cutting edge plant like this, is why didn't they negotiate that into the contract with Cenovus?  I mean if it was all expected, why commit to a contract and fines when you expect in advance there to be a problem meeting that commitment?

As a footnote, Premier Wall is supposed to be part of the Canadian delegation that goes to Paris for the Climate talks.  I'm sure he'll have a lovely booth.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2016, 08:12:15 PM »

Not really politics (though Trudeau was there) but the Tragically Hip's final concert was quite....lovely?  Didn't quite realize how popular the band was up there.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 12:52:10 PM »

Not really politics (though Trudeau was there) but the Tragically Hip's final concert was quite....lovely?  Didn't quite realize how popular the band was up there.

It was very touching. Was nearly in tears. How do you know about them? From what I gather they aren't well known in the US.

Well, I've lived in New Orleans for some time now and they wrote one song that wasn't about Canada.  Actually saw them play in New Orleans back in the early 90s.  Can't say that I had kept up with them over the years, but I started seeing stories about Gordon and his cancer and the final show, so I tuned in.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2016, 10:45:39 AM »

Not really politics (though Trudeau was there) but the Tragically Hip's final concert was quite....lovely?  Didn't quite realize how popular the band was up there.

It was very touching. Was nearly in tears. How do you know about them? From what I gather they aren't well known in the US.


Well, I've lived in New Orleans for some time now and they wrote one song that wasn't about Canada.  Actually saw them play in New Orleans back in the early 90s.  Can't say that I had kept up with them over the years, but I started seeing stories about Gordon and his cancer and the final show, so I tuned in.

Interesting; how many people were there?


It was in a decent sized open venue (no seating).  I think House of Blues though it could have been Tipitina's.  Not packed but full, maybe 400 people.    "New Orleans is Sinking" would get radio airplay locally long after it came out and this was well after it had been released, but it was still the centerpiece of the show, they played a much longer jammed out version.  I know they came back thru town after Katrina, but I didn't see that show.
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