Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[Mike88]

The latest two polls for the Federal election have the Liberals crashing down like a meteor. What happened? Did that Fidel statement fiasco hurt Trudeau?

[Mike88]

The latest two polls for the Federal election have the Liberals crashing down like a meteor. What happened? Did that Fidel statement fiasco hurt Trudeau?

There is the Forum Poll, what is the other poll?

EKOS - 22 November

[Mike88]

The latest two polls for the Federal election have the Liberals crashing down like a meteor. What happened? Did that Fidel statement fiasco hurt Trudeau?

They would win by more than they did in 2015 - that isn't crashing like a meteor. The extreme honeymoon is coming to an end.

I used the "crashing like a meteor" term in a Dan Rather way but it was quite a fall in just one month from a 20+ point lead to 10 or even single digits lead and, this is important, the Tories still don't have a leader.

[Mike88]

Found on Facebook this report about the government fiscal projections:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2017/01/04/buried-government-report-reveals-looming-fiscal-crisis

First, i don't know how accurate the "Ottawa Sun" is, or if it is even accurate, but how bad can this government report be to the Libs and for Trudeau policies?

[Mike88]

Nanos Research poll:

35.3% Lib (+1.2)
33.0% Con (-1.0)
22.0% NDP (+0.8 )
  4.8% Green (-0.6)
  4.1% BQ (-0.3)
  0.8% Others (-0.1)

No bounce, at all, for the Conservatives and a small increase for the NDP. Interesting.

[Mike88]

Nanos Research poll:

35.3% Lib (+1.2)
33.0% Con (-1.0)
22.0% NDP (+0.8 )
  4.8% Green (-0.6)
  4.1% BQ (-0.3)
  0.8% Others (-0.1)

No bounce, at all, for the Conservatives and a small increase for the NDP. Interesting.

Why the Conservatives should get a boost? They were proven wrong about NAFTA.

I though that the Ontario results would give a bounce to both the Conservatives and NDP. I know that the PC and the OLP aren't 100% aligned with the Federal Conservatives and Liberals, but still, Ontario is the biggest province in Canada.

[Mike88]

I wasn't following this. So, Bernier lost the leadership in 2017, he then became part of Scheer's team, started to criticize Scheer's leadership for being weak and left the party to form his own party. In reaction to this, many believe he's only feeding his ego, never accepted the results in 2017 and is trying to divide the Conservatives.

This may be just coincidence, but if you go to the Portuguese politics and elections thread, the exact same thing happened, here, in the biggest party on the center-right, with the split between Santana Lopes and the PSD. The exact same thing, episode by episode. Quite curious.

What kind of party is Bernier is thinking of? Center-right but hard on immigration and social issues?