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Illiniwek
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 03, 2016, 09:24:11 PM »

Key 1: The incumbent party (in this case, Democrats) holds more seats in the U. S. House of Representatives after the midterm election than after the preceding midterm election.
Clearly FALSE
Key 2: There is no serious contest for the incumbent-party nomination.
FALSE
Key 3: The incumbent-party candidate is the current president.
FALSE
Key 4: There is no significant third-party or independent candidacy.
Licthmann defines "significant" as earning 5%, so FALSE.
Key 5: The economy is not in recession during the campaign.
TRUE. Could change.
Key 6: Real (constant-dollar) per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth for the preceding two terms.
TRUE
Key 7: The incumbent administration has effected major policy changes during the term.
In this case, FALSE
Key 8: There has been no major social unrest during the term.
TRUE. The test requires that it be long and sustained, Ferguson doesn't qualify.
Key 9: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
TRUE.
Key 10: There has been no major military or foreign policy failure during the term.
TRUE
Key 11: There has been a major military or foreign policy success during the term.
TRUE. The opening of Cuba relations and Iran deal would definitely qualify.
Key 12: The incumbent-party candidate is charismatic or is a national hero.
FALSE.
Key 13: The challenger is not charismatic and is not a national hero.
Toss up: I guess charismatic, but definitely not a national hero.

So in my opinion, 6 true & 6 false, with one toss-up. Yikes.... Sad
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Illiniwek
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 10:09:30 PM »


Key 4: There is no significant third-party or independent candidacy.
Licthmann defines "significant" as earning 5%, so FALSE.


Um, [Citation Needed]

Though I guess there's really no way to prove that one true until after the election. Man this test is dumb.

I kept that from the original post, so I don't have a citation.
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Illiniwek
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,919
Vatican City State



« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 10:22:43 PM »


Key 4: There is no significant third-party or independent candidacy.
Licthmann defines "significant" as earning 5%, so FALSE.


Um, [Citation Needed]

Though I guess there's really no way to prove that one true until after the election. Man this test is dumb.

I kept that from the original post, so I don't have a citation.

Ah I see. That one should be true then though.

Huh you're right. I think I got confused on the multiple-negatives. Let me attempt this again:

Key 1: The incumbent party (in this case, Democrats) holds more seats in the U. S. House of Representatives after the midterm election than after the preceding midterm election.
FALSE
Key 2: There is no serious contest for the incumbent-party nomination.
FALSE
Key 3: The incumbent-party candidate is the current president.
FALSE
Key 4: There is no significant third-party or independent candidacy.
TRUE
Key 5: The economy is not in recession during the campaign.
TRUE. (While this could change, no present reason to believe it will)
Key 6: Real (constant-dollar) per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth for the preceding two terms.
TRUE
Key 7: The incumbent administration has effected major policy changes during the term.
FALSE
Key 8: There has been no major social unrest during the term.
TRUE. The test requires that it be long and sustained, Ferguson doesn't qualify.
Key 9: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
TRUE
Key 10: There has been no major military or foreign policy failure during the term.
TRUE (Nothing "major")
Key 11: There has been a major military or foreign policy success during the term.
TRUE.  Cuba & Iran
Key 12: The incumbent-party candidate is charismatic or is a national hero.
FALSE
Key 13: The challenger is not charismatic and is not a national hero.
Toss up: I guess charismatic, but definitely not a national hero.

So 7 true and 5 false with one tossup that I really think leans true.
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