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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2015, 09:49:07 AM »

dumb billboard. It doesn't make any sense. First in what context?  What is the issue they want people to act or not act on?

Jonathan Pollard is an example of someone putting Israel ahead of America.

This is a live issue?
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2015, 09:52:58 AM »

I find it ironic and funny how the supporters of Zionist racism are actually trying to argue against this, as if Israel is even 1/10th as important as the USA.



That's a false dichotomy that the dead-jews lobby has tried to create for quite some time, pretending that the two are diametrically opposed. They've long fantasized about transforming Israel into an enemy of the US.

But for the record, Israel's existence > America's convenience.

No, it doesn't trump our convenience.

We don't owe Israel anything, and to insinuate we do is fycking absurd and the mark of an uber Zionist mass racist.
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2015, 10:11:10 AM »

dumb billboard. It doesn't make any sense. First in what context?  What is the issue they want people to act or not act on?

Jonathan Pollard is an example of someone putting Israel ahead of America.

This is a live issue?

For Americans with self respect?  Yes.
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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2015, 10:21:11 AM »

1. Billboards suck in general. They should be zoned out of existence.

2. This billboard conveys a message that is once nationalistic (America First!), and bigoted (singling out another state with a special identity). So it especially sucks.

3. I can see the Trump billboards now with the same theme, just inserting Mexico and China in lieu of Israel. I wonder what the reaction would be to those billboards?
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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2015, 10:22:22 AM »

So Torie do you support the laws of Vermont, Oregon, Hawaii and Alaska? Those states ban all billboards.
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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2015, 10:24:45 AM »

So Torie do you support the laws of Vermont, Oregon, Hawaii and Alaska? Those states ban all billboards.

Of course!  I might add that outside the venue of that hideous excrescence of a town without zoning laws right next to Hudson known as Greenport, Columbia County is largely a billboard free zone.
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2015, 10:27:02 AM »
« Edited: October 25, 2015, 10:30:41 AM by Schadenfreude »

3. I can see the Trump billboards now with the same theme, just inserting Mexico and China in lieu of Israel. I wonder what the reaction would be to those billboards?

If over 18% of our foreign aid was going to support Mexico or China and their leader came to the White House and lectured the president the way Netanyahu did they would have gotten a nice little drone attack and Americans would be dancing in the street.
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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2015, 10:28:02 AM »

"America First" is a slogan from an odious Nazi-sympathizing organization.  
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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2015, 10:28:35 AM »

Well, maybe it could've been worded better. But the seintiment is fine.
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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2015, 10:32:14 AM »

dumb billboard. It doesn't make any sense. First in what context?  What is the issue they want people to act or not act on?

Jonathan Pollard is an example of someone putting Israel ahead of America.

This is a live issue?

For Americans with self respect?  Yes.

So what are the good people of Detroit supposed to do about Jonathan Pollard exactly?
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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2015, 10:44:18 AM »

I find it ironic and funny how the supporters of Zionist racism are actually trying to argue against this, as if Israel is even 1/10th as important as the USA.



That's a false dichotomy that the dead-jews lobby has tried to create for quite some time, pretending that the two are diametrically opposed. They've long fantasized about transforming Israel into an enemy of the US.

But for the record, Israel's existence > America's convenience.

Sounds like a terrorist group from "Life of Brian".

It seems a fitting term for those outsiders whose obsession with isolating and eliminating Israel supersedes all other causes for them.
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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2015, 10:44:30 AM »

That billboard is no more offensive than all those churches that fly Israeli flags.
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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2015, 10:46:49 AM »

dumb billboard. It doesn't make any sense. First in what context?  What is the issue they want people to act or not act on?

Jonathan Pollard is an example of someone putting Israel ahead of America.

This is a live issue?

For Americans with self respect?  Yes.

So what are the good people of Detroit supposed to do about Jonathan Pollard exactly?

Here in the United States we have elections where you can pick a candidate that supports your views.  You can also write to your Congressman and Senator or call them to let them know where you stand on this issue.  In addiction since money has been declared speech you can donate money to super pacs to combat the money poured in by AIPAC.  Closer to home you can get on the internet and learn about the issues and discuss them with your family and friends.

I guarantee you 99% of Americans have no idea over 18% of our foreign aid goes to Israel and countries bordering Israel.  Just getting that number into the majority of American's heads would add a lot more perspective to the discussion.
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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2015, 02:06:34 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2015, 02:08:24 PM by ag »

Given the history of "America First", it would have been likely anti-semitic even if it did not mention Israel at all.
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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2015, 02:50:50 PM »

I find it ironic and funny how the supporters of Zionist racism are actually trying to argue against this, as if Israel is even 1/10th as important as the USA.



That's a false dichotomy that the dead-jews lobby has tried to create for quite some time, pretending that the two are diametrically opposed. They've long fantasized about transforming Israel into an enemy of the US.

But for the record, Israel's existence > America's convenience.

No, it doesn't trump our convenience.

We don't owe Israel anything, and to insinuate we do is fycking absurd and the mark of an uber Zionist mass racist.

6 million Jews < American convenience. Gotcha.
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« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2015, 03:02:41 PM »

I find it ironic and funny how the supporters of Zionist racism are actually trying to argue against this, as if Israel is even 1/10th as important as the USA.



That's a false dichotomy that the dead-jews lobby has tried to create for quite some time, pretending that the two are diametrically opposed. They've long fantasized about transforming Israel into an enemy of the US.

But for the record, Israel's existence > America's convenience.

No, it doesn't trump our convenience.

We don't owe Israel anything, and to insinuate we do is fycking absurd and the mark of an uber Zionist mass racist.

6 million Jews < American convenience. Gotcha.

lol @ implying that six million Jews will die without American support to a rogue state that flaunts it's own nuclear weapons (and threatens to level Western cities if ever overrun, all the while throwing a sh!t fit when Iran comes close to getting their own), sells our military secrets to China, and throws missiles at our ships and then goes "lol oops Smiley"

This "Israelis will all DIE if America doesn't support their childish, rogue regime" is tired, trite, and old. Please. Nobody with half a brain and or who isn't actually brainwashed by Zionist nonsense believes it.
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« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2015, 03:29:31 PM »

I find it ironic and funny how the supporters of Zionist racism are actually trying to argue against this, as if Israel is even 1/10th as important as the USA.



That's a false dichotomy that the dead-jews lobby has tried to create for quite some time, pretending that the two are diametrically opposed. They've long fantasized about transforming Israel into an enemy of the US.

But for the record, Israel's existence > America's convenience.

No, it doesn't trump our convenience.

We don't owe Israel anything, and to insinuate we do is fycking absurd and the mark of an uber Zionist mass racist.

6 million Jews < American convenience. Gotcha.

lol @ implying that six million Jews will die without American support to a rogue state that flaunts it's own nuclear weapons (and threatens to level Western cities if ever overrun, all the while throwing a sh!t fit when Iran comes close to getting their own), sells our military secrets to China, and throws missiles at our ships and then goes "lol oops Smiley"

This "Israelis will all DIE if America doesn't support their childish, rogue regime" is tired, trite, and old. Please. Nobody with half a brain and or who isn't actually brainwashed by Zionist nonsense believes it.

You're the one who admitted that Israel's existence is less important to you than America's convenience.
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« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2015, 03:46:34 PM »

I find it ironic and funny how the supporters of Zionist racism are actually trying to argue against this, as if Israel is even 1/10th as important as the USA.



That's a false dichotomy that the dead-jews lobby has tried to create for quite some time, pretending that the two are diametrically opposed. They've long fantasized about transforming Israel into an enemy of the US.

But for the record, Israel's existence > America's convenience.

No, it doesn't trump our convenience.

We don't owe Israel anything, and to insinuate we do is fycking absurd and the mark of an uber Zionist mass racist.

6 million Jews < American convenience. Gotcha.

lol @ implying that six million Jews will die without American support to a rogue state that flaunts it's own nuclear weapons (and threatens to level Western cities if ever overrun, all the while throwing a sh!t fit when Iran comes close to getting their own), sells our military secrets to China, and throws missiles at our ships and then goes "lol oops Smiley"

This "Israelis will all DIE if America doesn't support their childish, rogue regime" is tired, trite, and old. Please. Nobody with half a brain and or who isn't actually brainwashed by Zionist nonsense believes it.

You're the one who admitted that Israel's existence is less important to you than America's convenience.

It is. Of course, you have no counter for anything I've said.
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« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2015, 03:58:45 PM »

I find it ironic and funny how the supporters of Zionist racism are actually trying to argue against this, as if Israel is even 1/10th as important as the USA.



That's a false dichotomy that the dead-jews lobby has tried to create for quite some time, pretending that the two are diametrically opposed. They've long fantasized about transforming Israel into an enemy of the US.

But for the record, Israel's existence > America's convenience.

No, it doesn't trump our convenience.

We don't owe Israel anything, and to insinuate we do is fycking absurd and the mark of an uber Zionist mass racist.

6 million Jews < American convenience. Gotcha.

lol @ implying that six million Jews will die without American support to a rogue state that flaunts it's own nuclear weapons (and threatens to level Western cities if ever overrun, all the while throwing a sh!t fit when Iran comes close to getting their own), sells our military secrets to China, and throws missiles at our ships and then goes "lol oops Smiley"

This "Israelis will all DIE if America doesn't support their childish, rogue regime" is tired, trite, and old. Please. Nobody with half a brain and or who isn't actually brainwashed by Zionist nonsense believes it.

You're the one who admitted that Israel's existence is less important to you than America's convenience.

It is. Of course, you have no counter for anything I've said.

It's funny, we clearly decided that the existence of Kosovo was worth more than our convenience in the 90s. No one argued that this was ridiculous besides total isolationists.

The US has allies. We try to keep them in existence. This isn't a controversial point unless it's Israel.
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« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2015, 03:59:42 PM »

Also, like half that post is unsourced lies about evil Israel conspiring agains the US, which...not a surprise. At all.
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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2015, 04:06:28 PM »

It is. Of course, you have no counter for anything I've said.

It's funny, we clearly decided that the existence of Kosovo was worth more than our convenience in the 90s. No one argued that this was ridiculous besides total isolationists.

I'm pretty sure we aren't giving Kosvo $3 billion a year.  Stop the propaganda.

The US has allies. We try to keep them in existence. This isn't a controversial point unless it's Israel we are spending over 18% of our foreign aid on them.

Fixed if for you!
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« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2015, 04:09:05 PM »

It is. Of course, you have no counter for anything I've said.

It's funny, we clearly decided that the existence of Kosovo was worth more than our convenience in the 90s. No one argued that this was ridiculous besides total isolationists.

I'm pretty sure we aren't giving Kosvo $3 billion a year.  Stop the propaganda.

The US has allies. We try to keep them in existence. This isn't a controversial point unless it's Israel we are spending over 18% of our foreign aid on them.

Fixed if for you!

Where the hell are you getting 18% from? The total US economic assistance given was 40B. Israel got less than 3B, the vast majority of which went to military R&D that the United States benefits from.
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« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2015, 04:13:24 PM »

Where the hell are you getting 18% from? The total US economic assistance given was 40B.

Read the thread you keep posting to.

Yeah.  Ridiculous we give these people $3 Billion a year and have to put up with their nonsense regarding Pollard.  That doesn't even count the other $4.5 Billion we bribe every other country that borders Israel.  Over 18% of our foreign aid goes to that small sliver of the planet.

And what do we get for thanks?  See my signature.  That type of brainwashing and propaganda should be combated.

Israel got less than 3B, the vast majority of which went to military R&D that the United States benefits from.

Lol!
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« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2015, 04:14:39 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2015, 04:21:23 PM »

So it's now suddenly Israel's fault that Israel is surrounded by hostile countries that require billions of dollars in foreign aid to not attempt to exterminate six million more Jews. Gotcha.
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